New Stonewall CEO confirmed

[WTFSeriously]

www.stonewall.org.uk/about-us/news/stonewall-welcomes-nancy-kelley-new-ceo

Looks like she'll fit in:

www.natcen.ac.uk/blog/doing-the-right-thing-for-trans-pupils

The fact these services exist and children and young people can access them is a powerful testament to the positive impact trans activism has had on the landscape of services and the visibility of trans people.

Brave person.

I wouldn't want to be in charge of a high profile charity when the lies it has built on in recent years cause it to all come crashing down.

I expect it will be a rough ride now that the extent of lobbyist capture is beginning to be uncovered (not that it wasn’t evident before). Surely there must now be extra departmental policy safeguards put in place to ensure lobbyist organisation’s recommendations are more thoroughly scrutinized.

@nauticant You're right. This bit though:

When we look at the data on the rise in trans children and young people accessing gender services, we should ask whether those services are able to meet a rising need, but we should also ask whether public services as a whole are doing their job right.

Surely "we should be asking why is there a rising need" would have been a more appropriate question. Not worried then, just celebrating all those trans children. 🤷‍♀️

You've got to worry a bit about the judgment of anyone who'd want this job.

“ and has been the lead on revenue growth as NatCen has returned to financial health over recent years.“

A Stonewall priority?

LGB is simply not compatible with T-if men can be women then how can you define lesbians??? Stonewall is doomed unless they kick out the T.

I wouldn't want to be in charge of a high profile charity when the lies it has built on in recent years cause it to all come crashing down.

Indeed.

Stonewall is doomed unless they refocus away from a narrow emphasis on lobbying for LGBT rights, which uses some questionable tactics, that ignore potential conflicts of interest. The organisation needs to mature towards a promotion of LGBT within the wider society. Something that accepts that at times there will be a conflict of rights, that the rights of others need to be acknowledged, and that negotiation is needed. And indeed have that same dialogue within their organisation.

This business of #nodebate, has to stop. It is offensive to women, especially lesbians, whose rights are then ignored. It also creates opposition from those who believe that the freedom to debate is essential to democracy.

There also needs to be a withdrawal from the dishonest business of proving trading and policy advice, seemingly biased towards Stonewall’s narrow lobbying aims. The courts are now stepping in to unravel some of it. But Stonewall needs to take a searching internal look at itself. Does their training and advice fudge some aspects of the equalities act, are the statistics they use accurate, are they taking on board the reasonable needs and expectations of other members of society. If not they are being deceitful and dishonest.

Stonewall is doomed unless they refocus away from a narrow emphasis on lobbying for LGBT rights, which uses some questionable tactics, that ignore potential conflicts of interest.

Stonewall will not survive scrutiny of the extent to which the organisation have contributed to the removal of Safeguarding & women's sex-based rights protections.

Sorry, "training" not Trading" at the start of my first para.

It does not bode well that they have appointed someone whose expertise is in growing revenue.

To have any chance of survival they need to draw a clear line under the Ruth Hunt years, and signal clearly that they want to work with others, rather than achieve dubious aims (the medicalisation of children ffs, or the dismantling of safeguarding) via bully-boy tactics.

From Stonewall statement:

"Throughout her 20-year career, Nancy has built up a diverse record of policy and leadership experience working across the third sector and in Government. Prior to joining NatCen, she worked at the Department for Work and Pensions. She has also held various policy and research roles at UK charities including the Joseph Rowntree Foundation, Refugee Council and Barnardos."

I note already on the Twitter feed that she is merely responding to anything that says congratulations or welcome.

Not one response about whether she intends to focus on the lgb or acknowledge the harassment online of gay men and lesbians who are being told they are transphobic. Proof has been posted aswell. Nothing....

R0wan, yes the same organisational merry-go-round that we have seen so many times before.

There are continuing noises that Boris/Cummings are working to change Civil Service culture. Probably in a way that won’t suit many. However there may be a silver lining.

(I feel sad that I can no longer support organisations that do not support me as a woman. I have cancelled my TV licence, and noted that the Old Vic is in financial trouble. I hesitate before using Waitrose/John Lewis, and have stayed well clear of M&S. I assume many lesbians feel the same about Stonewall.)

www.stonewall.org.uk/about-us/blog/interview-nancy-kelley-stonewalls-new-ceo

new boss, same as the old boss......

What do you see as the biggest challenges facing the fight for LGBT rights at the moment?
Like other liberation movements (feminism I think is in a similar place) we are at a point where the gains the movement has made aren’t equally felt, or even aren’t equally relevant across our communities.

Some of us have benefited far more from progress in LGBT rights than others. So thinking about how we are genuinely intersectional in our approach, and how we campaign passionately and effectively for the things that matter to distinctive minoritized communities feels essential.

Secondly, it feels like we are simultaneously at a point of great potential and great danger for trans and non-binary people.

Visibility is growing exponentially, and research shows us that the population as a whole has broadly positive attitudes to trans folk: there is real potential for positive change.

But at the same time not only are there huge barriers to trans and non binary people living their lives safely, there are worrying noises coming from government and from the legal system that have the potential to push trans rights backwards.

Those are the issues that are top of my mind as I step into this new role – I’m looking forward to having lots of conversations with colleagues, partner organisations and supporters over the next weeks and months to shape our strategy for the coming years.

Ha, I tried the Stonewall link, and got this:

*Whoa! Are you sure you want to go there?

www.stonewall.org.uk/about-us/blog/interview-nancy-kelley-stonewalls-new-ceo may be risky to visit.*

Exactly!

LGB is simply not compatible with T-if men can be women then how can you define lesbians??? Stonewall is doomed unless they kick out the T.

And as they look as though they have absolutely no intention of doing that, I think the writing is on the wall for its demise.

I just wish they would explain what rights they are talking about

Because they are not allowed to he fired for being trans. They are able to get married and participate in life and the law protects them as much as it protects everyone else should they be assaulted or discriminated against.

And no one has nor should anyone ever be granted the right to force people to lie and/or pretend they do not see what they see.

As for medical care well that's not good enough for anyone. Being left in limbo , long waiting lists and complete denials of treatment medically or psychologically is normal for just about anyone who doesnt pay to go private.

How are any rights being rolled back. Just what do they actually want becuase no one has actually dared say..probably because they realise that's when the penny would drop and people would be all " hang on a second..."

Shame they don’t have the courage of their convictions. They really should appoint Philip Bunce or Jess Bradley or Helen Belcher or Alex Drummond. Or Aimee Challoner. Show the general public and the corporates who this agenda is really for.

AC used to be and AD still is on the trans advisory board arent they?

Apparently this (Tracey Burley) is their new COO

insidecroydon.com/2019/08/05/sutton-council-sacks-cognus-md-over-their-send-shambles/

@bitinterested

Shame they don’t have the courage of their convictions. They really should appoint Philip Bunce or Jess Bradley or Helen Belcher or Alex Drummond. Or Aimee Challoner. Show the general public and the corporates who this agenda is really for.*

Bang on! 🎯

Nancy joins Stonewall after a transformational period for the charity which saw it become fully trans inclusive

I'm not up on my Stonewall history - is this referring to something in particular? Were there exceptions to trans inclusion before? Seems an odd thing to put in otherwise.

What are the huge barriers to trans and non binary people living their lives safely? What does safely mean? Transwomen are at much less risk of physical violence than women or men.

And what danger do non binary people face? All the non binary people I know are in heterosexual relationships and you wouldn't know they were non binary - if they didn't stop banging on about it - so what dangers do they face? The danger of being laughed at?

popehilarious - I'd imagine she's referring to the fallow period post same sex marriage laws and donations and engagement with Stonewall dropping like a stone (haha). So Stonewall needed to find itself a new cause celebre to stay relevant and fill the coffers so the trans agenda was born.

It's a shame really - to my mind, the mark of a truly successful charity is when they have achieved all the aims they set out to achieve. And Stonewall did that and they should be proud. It's no longer the organisation I supported, that's for sure.