#GlinnerIsABigot

[notmrpootles]

Trending tonight amongst the mad folk.

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Is Harrop a practising doctor? Worried for whoever has him as their locum.

I notice a couple of people have used the hashtag to stand up for him, e.g.

The people saying #GlinnerIsABigot seem to think women’s rights are theirs to give away as they wish. That is not the case which
@Glinner understands.

and

Nobody who publicly defends the rights of women at great personal cost may be called a misogynist on my watch. Thank you
@Glinner #GlinnerIsABigot

It's good to see.

i dont worry about his mental health at all - some of us thrive on debate/arguement- plus he is right, and i imagine everyone around him knows hes right.

id worry more about the mental health of frankie boyle, owen jones, billy bragg, aidan comerfield- these seem to be teetering on the brink of something sometimes ....

(nb - we are ALL semi obsessive about this issue, clearly. How can you not be? I have read about updates weekly, sometimes daily, for a few years. But I do think G takes it to a new level and it isn't healthy)

@RoyalCorgi - I hope that wasn't meant for me. I certainly don't think he is a misogynist.

i think 'concern about mental health' is a new way of saying shut up.
what indicators do you actually have that he is mentally unwell?

As a campaigner in another sphere I totally get his anger & frustration. When something is so blindingly obvious that you really can’t see how people don’t ‘get’ it’s utterly rage inducing.

In my job I learned to step back & ask ‘why is it that they don’t want to see this is an issue? What is it they lose by accepting that it is?’

In my job I can answer that pretty easily but I genuinely can’t see what the likes of grace Petrie gain from throwing other lesbians under a bus other than woke points 🤷🏻‍♀️ Which is a piss poor reason to do it

I said wellbeing, not mental health. Well, being a celebrity means you are known in the public eye. The amount of abuse and cruelty directed towards him is overwhelming. I can't think it is healthy for human beings to be subject to that. That, alongside the fact he has tweeted - what? - 50+ tweets a day about gender identity/trans issues for 2 years is, to me, sign of obsession. Looking at his recent twitter - he is tweeting about tumblr at 3am. IMO he can't see the wood for the trees in some of this - he spends too much time arguing on the internet with (what I assume are) American teenagers with anime avitars, saying things like "see this is the problem". I'm sure anyone who has taken a social media break has perspective on how excessive use can really affect you mentally. I'm sure it can't just be me? Anyway, I wish everyone here well (G too). Maybe I am just 'mothering', It's just I can't help but worry about him.

I was called a bigot for pointing out that Stonewall's interpretation of the EA is just that, and not real law.

worrying is one thing- i really appreciate anyone who puts themselves out there, and regret that this movement has silenced so many. more people speaking up would be the best way to help. and of course he wants to be proven correct- thats natural.

In my job I can answer that pretty easily but I genuinely can’t see what the likes of grace Petrie gain from throwing other lesbians under a bus other than woke points 🤷🏻‍♀️ Which is a piss poor reason to do it

Because it gains her lots of people applauding at gigs (except me, it felt). Because it doesn't really affect her, she knows who she finds attractive and I am sure she can turn down men when necessary.

Why would she suddenly put herself in the firing line for loads of abuse? She makes a living as a singer songwriter which is quite an achievement.

She probably believes her way is kind and to align views with anyone right wing would be social death for her.

Yes, Helmetbymidnight that tweet was one of your bog standard death threats from one of your bog standard unhinged TRAs.

I must admit that I think occasionally he is too reactive but then I put into perspective just how much hate that man gets on twitter. He is a target.

And I saw part of what went down with Grace Petrie and she did not budge from saying that DR Z was a woman because they said so. And she seems very happy to throw around slurs to people who didn’t agree with her own opinions when I watched it play out. So, I figured there was a prior history between them. She has continued to call people T**f and I figure anyone who throws that word around doesn’t care much about the opinion of others either.

flomary there is merit in taking even a day off twitter. You are definitely right about that.

I think glinner thought more people would stand up with him. He knows there are high profile people who think the same way he does, but have kept their heads down.

The word bigot has changed its meaning.

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That's a good point, @Winesalot. There is a huge age gap between them, though. Ideally, he should act like the bigger person. Grace is a young woman. I don't think it's right for a man in his fifties to be interrogating her about her sexual orientation/choices. I am not saying there is anything motivating this of course!! But it does come across badly. And despite him laudibly elevating the perspectives of LGB people, he really shouldn't, as a straight man, be telling young women they should be ashamed of themselves and that they are a betrayal to homosexuality. Not to employ identity politics logic, but I don't think that's right. I think he would appreciate this more if he just took a break and thought about other things for a while. Even a week.

The word bigot, when relating to trans issues has lost all meaning & the TRAs are beginning to realise that-hence they shout louder and bully more. The tide is turning though-we know the treatment of imaginary trans kids is appallingly dangerous/experimental, purely to validate grown mens sexual fetishes. More and more people are well informed about the horrors of self ID and the public do not want this horseshit forced on them. Glinner is not a bigot but perhaps if he took a break someone else would emerge for TRAs to have a pop at.....its his choice though.

I popped back onto Twitter after months of not bothering with it. Wow...the people in this cult have become even more fanatical and actually acting insane, if that was possible. The abuse is relentless from them. Just a hideous group. Mmmnnn...I also discovered I was blocked by Billy Bragg despite never interacting with him. Which is pathetic because I have no care at all for people who align themselves with abusers of women and girls.

I think that anyone looking at what is happening in this era of 'be kind' and 'inclusive' must feel angry that when words that have been hard fought to own for themselves in the original meaning of the word. I do. I feel very angry that the word woman is now being changed in culture and in law. I can only imagine the schisms that maybe were shallow at one stage being deepened within the LGB community and even the 'T' community I have great empathy for that.

When you also look to see the hatred spewed at people being called 'truscum'. I mean, what a vile, vile hateful word for the original transgender people.

Even the word 'Bigot' has completely lost its meaning. And I still see very little name calling by women who just want to maintain their boundaries. A Wokey blokey or beardy here and there, but very few women even use the term TRA as a come back.

And don't let me start with 'feminist' when you have Jameela talking about the many styles of feminism. She must talk to some very warped people to categorise those.

I think that anyone looking at what is happening in this era of 'be kind' and 'inclusive' must feel angry that when words that have been hard fought to own for themselves in the original meaning of the word, find those words changed to something irreconcilable without any consideration for others.

Sorry, pushed the post button too soon.

#findanewhobbyyounutters

I realize everyone is going a bit crazy in lockdown but can they not take up embroidery or something?

Alternately, we could try popularizing #ihatefurriestoo.

It's all based on the 'don't judge' thing of the past few years, which has been fashionable.

Some things should be bloody well judged, and judged hard. As 'be kind' has been twisted and warped to mean 'have no boundaries I don't like', 'don't judge' has come to mean 'I can behave as inappropriately and unacceptably as I like and you can't stop me' and is really fun for those with exhibitionist and indecent exposure fetishists where the pay off is in the shock, reaction and power over others. It's a nice phrase that guilts the well intentioned out of boundaries so that someone not well intentioned at all can enjoy getting away with exploiting them.

I judge the living fuck out of that.

I think Graham said he would take a break from Twitter a couple of months ago. I think it was after Fair Cop. But he lasted less than a day. It can't be a lot of fun going through what he's going through for sure. I do admire his tenacity. But because I am programmed to always 'be kind' I do struggle with some of his more childish personal attacks. It attracts the wrong kind of attention and it's not like he's going to change Bragg, Boyle et al's minds. I have huge respect for him never backing down however and I only became aware of the issue because of him really, so I hope others have seen the light because of him as well and he definitely deserves credit for that.

If you look at Glinner's timeline, fully of ridiculous furry art, do they honestly think that's going to win over anyone who's not already on Team Wanking To Sexualized Plushy Toys? If I knew nothing about what was going on my takeaway would be that dysfunctional people with strange sexual interests sure do seem to be angry at this successful writer for some reason, which suggests that he's probably right about whatever they're so hopping mad about.