Always & women symbol

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Did I miss this? Always have taken the women/Venus symbol off their packaging so they don’t upset trans and non-binary people?

My Dsis mentioned it to me yesterday. I can’t believe I didn’t know. How can a sanitary towel manufacturer cave in to this nonsense?

It's been gone for a while

It's been gone for a while. Always extra long protect liners are by far and away the best for mucus discharge caused by Crohn's Disease. I've tried loads of others but none came close.

They are not marketed for this purpose and this might be too much information but if anyone, or your male partners, suffers from Crohn's I definitely recommend them.

I make reusables for dd since she started a year ago. She doesn't have exposure to any of this silly nonsense.

October 2019 Mail on Sunday
"18-year-old trans activist Ben Saunders - named young campaigner of the year by LGBT charity Stonewall in May after making a documentary about being transgender – contacted the sanitary pad makers in June complaining about the sign"

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7593861/Feminists-slam-sanitary-towel-maker-ditched-Venus-logo-products.html

Did I miss this? Always have taken the women/Venus symbol off their packaging so they don’t upset trans and non-binary people?

My Dsis mentioned it to me yesterday.

CNN 23/10/2020
(extract)
"Always sanitary products will remove the Venus symbol, historically used to represent the female sex, from its products to be inclusive of transgender and nonbinary customers.

Transgender activists and allies had publicly urged Procter & Gamble to redesign its pad wrapper without the gender symbol, a circle atop a cross. Among their arguments were that not all people who menstruate are women and that not all women menstruate.

The change is the latest in a series of actions companies and governments are taking to affirm the identities of transgender people as transgender equality activism surges. Companies including Lyft, Mastercard, and Tinder are making similar moves.
"For over 35 years Always has championed girls and women, and we will continue to do so," Procter & Gamble said Tuesday in a statement. "We're also committed to diversity & inclusion and are on a continual journey to understand the needs of all of our consumers."

Getting periods can be a dysphoric experience for transgender and nonbinary people, especially because of the way that periods are generally discussed and addressed as something that only happens to people who are assigned women at birth.
Procter & Gamble has not said when the design change will happen." (continues)

edition.cnn.com/2019/10/22/health/always-period-gender-symbol-removed-transgender-nonbinary-trnd/index.html

But I thought they wanted to be identified as women so why the angst about a symbol representing women?

But I thought they wanted to be identified as women so why the angst about a symbol representing women?

The complaint was made by a trans man, not a trans woman.

They took it off ages ago.

Unfortunately this us where we are. Thousands upon thousands of women contact always to tell them their scented products not only stink they cause allergic reactions and pain to the women who usually have bought them by accident as the labelling isn't clear . And they do nothing.

A trans man complains and bingo they react.

All they care about is woke points and I haven't nor will not buy they products ever again

Gave me the push to abandon bought products and go to eco friendly re usable ones. I hadn't realised how harsh the chemicals were and what impact they had until I made the switch, the re usable are much better! (And don't stink).

Woman - Adult human female with a vote, and the family spending power.

And yes, the overt sexism was quite telling, wasn't it? Females can be ignored in their thousands over a problem with the actual product, but a female preferring to identify as a man feeling slightly offended - oh immediate jumping to obey.

Ironically despite claiming that women want them....there were an awful lot of scented products still on the shelves and very few of anything else

Thanks Dido,
That’s made it clearer for me although I still feel we are overly bending to a minority and dismissing the majority.

I’d moved away from using them in protest at the scentedness, ironically.

With all the things about periods and sanitary protection to be upset about, imagine complaining about the symbol and them actually removing it. Oh well, I’ll make an extra effort never ever to buy them again.

The Always liners I use for Crohn's Disease are scented. I think it does help their effectiveness. I need 1 per day and 1 at night, every day and night. No other brand of liner, towel or pad I've tried works as well. I wouldn't be able to leave the house without them.

I'm certainly not giving up buying Always over this.

If they work well for you for your Crohns Dido then that’s good. I’ve found that nowadays the cheap generics are nearly as good as Always for periods, at about 1/10 of the price, and some of the eco brands are really good too, so it’s easy for me to say I won’t buy Always. For years they were the best brand - luckily others have caught up.

Cheap brands aren't as good. None of them have the length for one thing. An expensive Eco brand was useless.

I double them up at night to make them long enough. There’s an eco brand that’s good - I think it’s Flo. Kind is quite good too. The ones woven out of lentils are just thinner versions of the old fashioned cotton wool things. Anyway you do you - finding something that works is the priority.

I’m just disappointed because I used to think the Always brand was great.

Oh yes, and I recently had to spend the Period Poverty grant at my school...

Buying a range of disposable and reusable, if not referring to women and girls on their website they got fucked off. Every little helps.

Seems that people cared more about catering to certain people's feelings than stuff that affects people re: tampons like pink taxes.

Good for you OhWhatTheHellNow. When I was at school it was Dr Whites out of the vending machines - they were the ones with loops on them, you had to safety pin them to your knickers. Looking back I can’t believe the school didn’t try harder. We had to wear really thin summer dresses as well, it was a nightmare at times.

sigh

This is fucking insane. The trans people now want to own our periods!

I’ll tell you what, they can have my fucking menopause. Shove that right up your arse.

Woman - Adult human female with a vote, and the family spending power.

Good point, Michelle, and worth reminding advertisers.

I just searched for this topic as my daughter just mentioned it. I won't be buying always products again. Not that they'll care, there will be more than enough trans people buying them to make up for the lost custom 🙄

What's even more annoying, in the very early 80s while I was trying to adjust a ginormous pad, I thought these things need sticky flaps to keep them in place. I could have been super rich! And I'd have told that trans man to do one!

There are much better ones out there, Ren, I found out after I stopped using Always. I use Non perfumed ones that are made of natural fibres that don't irritate and are biodegradable, a little bit more expensive but worth it in my opinion.