Breastfeeding dad

[Jellycatfox]

I am really not sure how I feel about this. I think not terribly good.

The poor baby, thats no doubt a boy or a girl already

You mean, the baby that's been assigned a gender. I'm sure the, uh, father would want you to say that.

We actually haven’t been banned from saying double mastectomy or castration on these boards afaik. Let’s use honest words where we can.

Does the breastfeeding individual have a GRC, I wonder??

Cos having a baby and breastfeeding that baby ain't anything like 'living as a man'.
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So... any medication being taken and transferred to the baby? Do what you want to your own body, call you self space alien but don’t pump god knows what into a baby.

The main point I take is that the mother is going to be gaslighting the child by saying that they are the child's father

It's interesting, isn't it? I knew nothing about queer theory and its pivotal role until the ever erudite Lang mentioned it. Then I read The Madness of Crowds and Murray's scathing assessment of Judith Butler, the 'academic' midwife of this bizarre doctrine. One recurrent theme is to demolish the relationship between words and external reality. This ideology has at its epicenter a determined attempt to fracture and dismember the way language functions. Instead of shared collective, coherent, rational links between biology at its most fundamental and language, there is deliberate deconstruction. It is not coincidental that so many of the battles are linguistic. It is intentional. A breastfeeding 'father,' pregnant 'people,' 'lesbians' with intact male genitalia. This is an Orwellian attack on language and the immutable external reality it describes.

very disappointing from la leche league
I thought this as well, almost as if every organisation that is meant to break barriers and help needs to do the “modern thing” and let me down

What barriers? Just making nonsense if you ask me.

Lordfrontpaw

It is nonsense isn't it.

Barriers to breastfeeding,
Milk hasn't come in
neonatal baby
tongue/lip tie in baby
inverted nipples
a problem with babies latch
cleft palate
and numerous things can be barriers, your gender identity is not one of them.
who goes to a bf group to have THEIR gender identity validated.
As a pp said, you will be supported if you are breastfeeding and go to the group.

Actual barrier to breastfeeding - being a man.

Not a barrier that can or should be overcome.

I thought this thread was going to be about the trans women who induce lactation.

Ginger

Me too,Small mercies.

Trans women lactation actually happens!

Yeah, could also have been about the breastfeeding dads who are entitled abusers who force their wives to let them 'feed' and steal their own children's nutrition... Could have been worse.

I guess it's a question of whether you are focussed on your baby and meeting its needs or just focussed on yourself and your identity.

The use of these coy euphamisms is telling, why don't they have the confidence to say it like it is?

Because it's easier to type top surgery than double masectomy? I'm not afraid of the words when I want the surgery, I just don't like throwing heavy medical terms at people all the time. Why do people say 'spaying' rather than 'ovariohysterectomy'? Or the snip instead of vasectomy? It's a colloqualism. There's nothing insiduous about that.

Surgery is a medical term. Saying top surgery is a smokescreen for what it really is which is a mastectomy, in the case of 'top surgery', the removal of perfectly healthy breasts.

It used to be that mastectomies were only used as a last ditch attempt to save a woman from dying from breast cancer, as it is radical, lengthy surgery and not one you perform otherwise.

How things have changed.

I couldn't have any stronger form of pain relief than paracetamol or ibruprofen when I was breastfeeding, I do worry for the newborns that are on whatever fluid a man produces when he is on a cocktail of drugs to induce what he would call breastfeeding AND what impact any synthetic testosterone could do to a newborn feeding from a woman who is on the drug.

Talk about priorities.

So an adult human female breastfeeding, as their breasts were designed too, regardless of their sexist gender ideology. Cool.

So carried and gave birth to a baby, is breastfeeding baby. What is a woman - physical or emotional?

Breast cancer patients do not refer to top surgery. It’s not a colloquialism. It’s not commonly used other than by a small group trying to hide the reality. Bottom surgery doesn’t even come close to capturing the reality. If you didn’t know you’d assume something to do with piles.

You can breastfeed. You can get PND. You can get PTSD. You can have your private parts ripped to shreds. You can have any number of things. You can have sex with another woman if you like. But if you give birth you are a woman.

If I was this person's mum I would be overjoyed that they hadn't let their dysphoria prevent them from having a baby and wanting to breastfeed. Because surely being trans is about dysphoria, right?

Every single person on the planet, of sound mind, knows that giving birth is something that can only be done by an adult human female.

And if I was their mum I would be doing everything in my power to support their female journey, while at the same time lovingly and gently trying to help them connect and engage with the truth.

What barriers? Just making nonsense if you ask me.
I meant that they are meant to help women who want to breastfeed and that includes social barriers in some cultures, such as doing it in public or in front of others.
So somehow because they go against some social views then they want to look cool and modern and free.
Not sure if that made sense.

The whole thing...

Oh it was a pop at what you said - I just hate all this "I will do whatever the hell I want and claim that I am a saint for 'breaking barriers' (even if I'm the only nutjob on the planet who fancies doing this anyway)"

Nice bit of self mis-gendering. Only women breastfeed, men have chests, or maybe moobs in extreme circumstances. Have any men been known to lactate?

Not spontaneously. Not even a Saint.