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Scottish Government shelves GRA reform due to Covid-19

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polarisation · 01/04/2020 18:08

Just getting the gist of this just now, they're shelving bills that they can't deal with due to the pandemic, and the GRA is one of them. Election in 2021 so unlikely to be passed before the new parliament!

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RuffleCrow · 01/04/2020 18:09

Why doesn't it just identify out of the pandemic and crack on with the bill?

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polarisation · 01/04/2020 18:09

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-52119865

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polarisation · 01/04/2020 18:13

The National has a longer statement: www.thenational.scot/news/18350482.coronavirus-gra-reform-plans-shelved-scottish-government

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ThinEndoftheWedge · 01/04/2020 18:24

Why doesn't it just identify out of the pandemic and crack on with the bill?

Indeed. Would help the NHS.

GlitterToast · 01/04/2020 18:24

It was always going to be shelved. This just gives them a convenient excuse.

Dances · 01/04/2020 18:29

Or they has an initial briefing on the consultation responses and thought, fuck that.

I care not a jot, just relieved.

Michelleoftheresistance · 01/04/2020 20:27

The general public's willingness to entertain this is no longer going to be there. There's going to be far too many people with real problems in the next few months, far too many very serious priorities, and too many governments under pressure and having a hard time.

Michelleoftheresistance · 01/04/2020 20:28

(and it would have been hard to get past the general public anyway, even under the best of circumstances) .

Cwenthryth · 01/04/2020 20:30

There are some weird silver linings to this crisis.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/04/2020 20:33

Indeed Cwen

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 01/04/2020 21:48

Nice that there can be some positives in all this & let’s not forget the ferocious fight back that has been made by many. Every letter, consultation response, MSP/MP visit, leaflet etc mattered too. 🥃

Aesopfable · 01/04/2020 22:06

Now we need to continue the fight to get rid of all the false narratives 'ahead of the law'.

KatySun · 02/04/2020 07:01

Hallelujah
Am very sorry that it has taken a global pandemic to focus minds though. Would have been good if the Scottish government had exercised some sense in the first place.

Cwenthryth · 02/04/2020 07:01

Nice front-and-centre for the Adult Human Female banner there!

zanahoria · 02/04/2020 08:05

I am a bit mixed about this, the arguments were just coming out into the open and we were winning.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 02/04/2020 08:09

Which just means that there will be lobbying going on behind the scenes to put it back on the agenda later, and more focus on pushing organizations to "get ahead of the law". Don't get me wrong, this is a good thing, but don't for a second think that the people pushing this stuff have given up, or will.

Lordfrontpaw · 02/04/2020 08:41

A year is a long time. The bandwagon jumpers will have a new pet project to latch onto by then. Probably human rights for cats or something.

Michelleoftheresistance · 02/04/2020 08:43

I have no doubt there'll be much lobbying.

However at the moment, that is going to seem extremely tone deaf and irritating to MPs trying to deal with constituents with no income, whose family members are ill or dying or unable to be buried due to pacemakers etc, who are at risk of losing their homes, who are struggling to access food or support, who are struggling to continue working as key workers with social care support in tatters, who are working at extreme risk due to PPE ….

Maslow's hierarchy of need. Self actualisation is something a society can afford to indulge when it's well off and has a lot of time on its hands, and very little experience of hardship.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 02/04/2020 08:43

Which just means that there will be lobbying going on behind the scenes to put it back on the agenda later, and more focus on pushing organizations to "get ahead of the law". Don't get me wrong, this is a good thing, but don't for a second think that the people pushing this stuff have given up, or will.

YY.

Michelleoftheresistance · 02/04/2020 08:44

Not to mention the way that numbers are escalating, if we end up in a worse state than Italy, MPs are going to get very sharp lessons indeed in reality and the bottom of that pyramid in coming weeks. It won't even be constituents, it'll be how the hell to deal with basic service provision in the county.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 02/04/2020 08:49

It will be interesting to see how lobbyists attempt to justify breast implants for male humans as a "need" in those circumstances.

maeb · 02/04/2020 08:54

Igneococcus - thanks for the share token Smile

BetsyM00 · 02/04/2020 09:25

Which just means that there will be lobbying going on behind the scenes to put it back on the agenda later

YYY! See also the letter that Shirley-Anne Somerville sent to her "colleagues" at Scottish Trans Alliance, LGBT Youth, etc, (government paid for lobbying groups to the rest of us) in which she re-iterates commitment to reform and stresses her door is always open to the trans orgs.

twitter.com/LGBTIScotland/status/1245321793369407488

Imnobody4 · 02/04/2020 10:33

I'm still suspicious and remain on high alert. However l do have a feeling that maybe the moment has passed. The absurd behaviour of the police and attacks on freedom of speech have lost sympathy I don't think they can recover.
It's rewinding the propaganda in schools and universities that needs addressing.

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