How will non-binary people cope with coronavirus?

[Lamahaha]

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Brilliant satire!

I this bit just about sums up everything: There really should be separate measures in place for vulnerable people like me who just want to be accepted and respected like everyone else.

Ironically, every non-binary person I have ever met is ten times stronger than anyone else I know. Case in point: How upset everyone gets on here anytime a non-binary person does anything. Even the imagined ramblings of some 50 year old guy are enough to get you lot worked up over someone being like “can you use they them? Thanks!”

Tell me, is this a forum about feminism or celebrating sexist, racist, homophobic magazines painful attempts at humour?

Yes I think that people who jump on the trans/non binary bandwagon often DO have mental health issues and are potentially very fragile Ginny so I do get where you are coming from and perhaps my co-opting comment was harsh. Tbf I was thinking of a certain charlatan named after a flower when I typed that!

Ironically, every non-binary person I have ever met is ten times stronger than anyone else I know

A lot of people here don't think there's such a thing as a "non-binary person", or such a thing as gender.

And it's good to have a chuckle at such grim times. Good satire is always entertaining. I certainly am not upset or worked up by anything a "non binary" person has to say. I tend to roll my eyes.

Yes eye rolling is definitely the way forward. They will grow up soon enough and will probably be mortified. I know this - I used to be be a goth!

koshkatt, thanks for this - I re-read the article, keeping your comments in mind, and I can see that it is a very effective demo of the "unique" trope. I do still feel it is clumsily done, but recognise that it was an attempt to list the conditions de jour...

Yes eye rolling is definitely the way forward. They will grow up soon enough and will probably be mortified. I know this - I used to be be a goth!

I feel your pain, Koshkatt. If you had seen the height of my 70s wedge-heeled platform shoes, and me falling off them while crossing the road, your eyes might have rolled full circle

And yet non-binary people think you are a hate group.

Wonder why.

Surely the whole point is that the self obsessed gender loons co-opt these conditions and pretend to have them to garner sympathy? THAT is what is in poor taste.
That's how I understood it too.

It's much harder for those properly diagnosed to get support and recognition for certain illnesses because there's self-diagnosing idiots who want to co-opt labels to make themselves more special/troubled/misunderstood than everyone else.

It's a bit like migraine sufferers like myself struggling to have people understand that I can easily need 3 days off work with a bad migraine because it's not, as some claim, a bit of a bad head and a good excuse for a day off work if you're under the weather.

‘Godfrey Elfwick’ is a satirical creation, whose site took me to an article by Douglas Murray. I love satire, and I also love dry understated humour, so here’s a quote from Murray that I just have to share:

It isn’t surprising that some people are finding it increasingly hard to discern satire from reality. On a perfectly average day NBC News can run a piece on transgender athletes with the headline: “Trans athletes make great gains, yet resentment still flares“. It’s a headline in which the word “yet” is doing a considerable amount of work.

unherd.com/2019/03/why-titania-is-perfect-for-our-times/

I wonder if any satire has been written on the trials of being a satirist in the age of Poe's Law?

Satire has often been 'tasteless'. Has anyone ever beaten Swift's 'Modest Proposal'?

I wonder what members of the next generation will come up with to make themselves appear interesting to each other.

Yes of course it was in bad taste. It also made me smile. Lord save us from kind comedians.

LolaSmiles that's true, I can identify with that. Migraines are not equal to headaches, influenza is not equal to the common cold, ME is not equal to being a bit tired.

The flipside - not wanting to perform makeup does not equal man, and not wanting to "wear the trousers" does not equal woman.

Strange that an ideology has been allowed to co-opt feelings to change the law in its favour while biological reality is now seen as bigotry

Ironically, every non-binary person I have ever met is ten times stronger than anyone else I know

Yes, we know - they’re stunning and brave.

For me, it was the early 70's, when all the "woke" youngsters of the day thought the way forward was to turn on, tune in, drop out. Many of us actually did that: drop out, I mean. We condemned all the conventional older people who went to work, paid taxes, and were slaves of "the system". We were extremely serious about it. Many of us went to live on communes and farms and formed our own communities, convinced that this was the way history was going. Remember that song, The Age of Aquarius? The lyrics?

Harmony and understanding
Sympathy and trust abounding
No more falsehoods or derisions
Golden living dreams of visions
Mystic crystal revelation
And the mind's true liberation

Or Bob Dylan's The Times they are a'changin'?

Come gather 'round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone.
If your time to you
Is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'.

We were absolutely 100% certain that we had it right, and that society was at the dawn of a completely new age, new understanding.

I remember going into a tax office as a 19 year old with friends, high as a kite, and us all laughing ourselves silly about all the people sitting at desks buried in papers thinking this (money) was what life was all about. We derided our parents' generation and "knew" they were totally out of sync with the way the world was going. We were right, they were wrong.

And that's why I can say with some confidence (and a bit of a shudder as to what a megalomaniac I was at the time) that this too will pass.

The difference is that there is absolutely no proof of my arrogance of the time, not a single photo was ever taken! And better yet: nobody was permanently damaged, no bodies were mutilated in the experiment.

It's the job of youth to try out new, innovative ideas, oppose the conventional wisdom. Sooner or later, they all realise that it's the oldies who keep the world functioning, however sloppily; and learn to sort out the crazy new ideas from sane and wise traditions. It's the way society develops, takes a step forward, opens up a little more, becomes a bit better. The things we did get right back then, like environmental issues and sustainability, we see reflected in the Gretas of today.

The problem is, another, more extreme generation is waiting in the wings.

Oh hai Transwoman, here to scold us again?

That's how I read it too Lola a lot of genuine serious conditions have been appropriated including gender disphoria but bad actors who will use anything to gain attention.

The migraine analogy is a good one. I used to have a collegue who would claim she had a migraine whenever she came under particular scrutiny, but funnily enough she was able to manage by sitting at her desk reading a book while everyone else had to work quietly around her, she didn't like talking pills

Oh hello! All you brave and courageous non-binary people - Kiwi farms is that way ➡️

Let us know how you get on telling them to be kind.

Really nasty.

Yes Lamahaha, I remember the 70s, and knowing everything, unlike all the boring old farts! We were right about the environment, but unfortunately we didn’t have the power or influence to change much. Also right about women’s liberation. We weren’t generally hostile to non-believers, though, as I recall. And luckily the forces of misogyny were a lot less hostile than they are now.

And better yet: nobody was permanently damaged, no bodies were mutilated in the experiment

God, no. Drugs damaged some people, but that was an unintended side-effect. No deliberate harm.

Well it made me laugh.

genderflective cisneg agitator 😂