In court tomorrow

[BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted]

Hayden versus Associated Newspapers.

The Judge? Go on guess. Mr Justice Julian Knowles.

Remember him? I couldn’t be happier.

This is according to contacts at the NZ fruit farm

I might identify as a sperm donor. What could possibly go wrong?

Sorry place marking only atm, not normally one to drop into the feminism boards but this thread has given me questions I’ve never had before so would like to keep up with it!

Welcome, Bog FWR is much more exciting than you might assume from the outside! Especially if you like true crime drama

Wouldn't it be LLB? D would imply doctorate. I'm a bit dubious Hayden could work at doctorate level.

Can you imagine how that might affect you, psychologically, to keep switching names like that. How would you know who you really are.

This is a good point when you consider SH claims their bad memory warrants tax payer money.

I thought I saw BA Law which is not a qualifying degree and lighter on law content.

I thought I saw BA Law which is not a qualifying degree and lighter on law content.

Correct (although a Bachelors law degree is an LLB rather than BA). SH has an LLB. They cannot become a solicitor because they don't have the post-grad LPC. In any case their prior conviction would disqualify them. Presumably this is why they are no longer CILEX.

Ah I had misremembered. Yes an LLB titchy.

(extract)
"Stephanie R Hayden
Leeds, United Kingdom
18 August 2018
About the Author

Stephanie is a male to female transgender person holding a Gender Recognition Certificate. She is a Bachelor of Laws and has been in legal professional practice since 2008.

I am sure I have heard Tara Hewitt casually state to an audience that "When I was at law school" or "When I studied law"
I believe the talk was delivered to an audience of healthcare workers.
I don't know if Tara Hewitt is or was a lawyer or not, but it just rolls off the tongue and the audience stare back at Tara assuming it must be true.

Ideology built upon lies.

I am not suggesting that Hayden doesn't have a law degree? Just querying if they offer legal advice as a regulated and appropriately qualified person.

I am sure I have heard Tara Hewitt casually state to an audience that "When I was at law school" or "When I studied law"
I believe the talk was delivered to an audience of healthcare workers.
I don't know if Tara Hewitt is or was a lawyer or not, but it just rolls off the tongue and the audience stare back at Tara assuming it must be true.

Was it this speech in 2016 to healthworkers providing cancer care?

There are quite a lot of questions which should have been asked.

Is it possible that SH has studied law twice then? One pre 2008 and again (Birkbeck) 2013-2015?

Tara Hewitt is a founder of TELI (Trans Equality Legal Initiative) but I can’t recall TH ever identifying as a lawyer. Will see what I can track down

m.youtube.com/watch?v=M9J8SRbUTkA

I assume to become a member of CILEX you have to pass some sort of exams. Am I right in thinking that SH became a member of CILEX, then for some reason lost that accreditation, then did a law degree at Birkbeck, which would normally be part-time?

Possibly R0, I will need to have a listen.

2016 Interview with Liverpool Echo,

'What it's like to be Transgender and Catholic
Tara Hewitt, NHS equality and diversity advisor, doesn't believe in abortion or IVF but says it doesn't affect her job'

(extract)
A transgender woman who converted to Catholicism speaks out about her beliefs and how it doesn’t affect her role in the NHS.

Tara Hewitt, 30, who works in the Wirral as the boroughs’s equality and diversity advisor said she is pro-life but ‘doesn’t force those views on others.’

She said:“I don’t believe in terminating life... Life starts at conception and then if you terminate life after that then you’re ending a life.

“That’s my view, I can’t have children, I don’t judge people for making their decisions – I have friends who have had abortions.”

After transitioning at the University of Liverpool, at the age of 21, Tara struggled and attempted suicide before turning to the church.

She said her attempted overdose does not affect her Catholicism.

“I do loads of things that would be classed as a sin, I live my life as me, I believe in God, I believe in the teaching.

Tara, who attends the Crypt in the Metropolitan Cathedral, described a low point in her life, turning to the church last Easter.

“I went to church as Catholics were supporting me, I felt a blanket of love, that was where I needed to be." (continues)

Tara, who lives in New Brighton, is also a pansexual, which means she is attracted to any gender.

But, although she supports gay marriage and same-sex adoption, she doesn’t believe in IVF.

“None of my views are based on sexual orientation I support love.

“Millions of people share my view but, because they aren’t trans, they aren’t targetted.

“It’s hard being right wing and trans, I get attacked from both sides.”

Tara was on the Conservative Party candidate list in the last election and came under fire when a Sun report ‘revealed’ her sexual fetishes.

Hewitt reportedly described herself as an “advocate of the BDSM (bondage, discipline and sadomasochism) community”, and into “swinging” and “pet play”, which is dressing up as an animal for sex." (continues)
www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/what-its-like-transgender-catholic-10810323

Even doing two law degrees doesn't mean you are qualified to offer advice. Listed as Legal Consultant on LinkedIn. Cilex members do need to pass exams to use the title of Cilex Legal Executive.

Presumably pre 2008 was cilex and 2015 is the LLB.

They are not regulated, but anyone can give legal advice (as many MN threads can confirm ) - as ever always check the advice you are given.

That said SH has I assume a reasonable competency in legal matters, is reasonably intelligent, has experience and knows where to go to read further case law etc. Still not qualified though.

Tara Hewitt may very well have done something like the Graduate Diploma in Law, sometimes called the law conversion. People usually do it hoping to be a solicitor or barrister but not everyone who does it goes on to be either. We colloquially referred to it as law school when I did it. The only qualifications are having a degree already, being willing to pay the fees and having a pulse.

You do have to pass lots of exams for CILEX and they are pretty rigorous. Years ago only a certain percentage of applicants can pass, not sure if that's the case now.

@Usernameedited as far as I'm aware, this individual only claims an LLB.

LLB is Bachelor

LLM is Master

LLD is Doctor

Unless Hayden has a PhD we weren't aware of, Hayden is at the bottom rung, which is a straightforward LLB. You get that if you've read law as an undergraduate. Even if you get a Third (not saying Hayden has - I don't have a clue). And entry to a simple undergrad law degree isn't especially competitive, either. It's not medicine. It's the professional training pathway that is very, very hard to achieve - the LPC and training contract, or the BPTC and pupillage. At that stage, you have to convince other people to invest in your career instead of the other new graduates jockeying for that investment; that's competitive as hell. But an undergrad degree? Nah.

The word lawyer is meaningless. Anyone can identify as a lawyer. But most people simply don't know that, and assume a level of professional success.

Sorry, X posted with a vengeance there!

I find it..frustrating that SH is crowing about Adrian Yelland being a student but won't acknowledge their own background

Actually linkedin says Tara Hewitt did law at the University of Liverpool from 2005 to 2010. They didn't offer any of the vocational qualifications then as far as I know, so my guess is bachelors and perhaps a masters degree in law. Wouldn't need a GDL but equally, doesn't remotely qualify them to offer legal opinions.

The word lawyer is meaningless. Anyone can identify as a lawyer. But most people simply don't know that, and assume a level of professional success.

If the description 'lawyer' is meaningless why might it be a basis for litigation if one questioned that a person was a lawyer (hypothetically of course)?

You're nicer than me. I don't find it frustrating. I find it hilarious.