The 'bloody' misogyny of Pink News

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God forbid women go out when they menstruate

I have solved all crime everywhere. Bow before my genius

All hail @allmywhat Truly a prophet in her own country.

Maybe the boys at Pink News should stick to gossip, make-up and fashion and leave the grown up stuff like politics to their mothers.

They didn't allow comments on the article, pity because I have been quite vocal recently where they do.
Maybe the comments are increasingly biased against them?
The public at large are waking up.
The giant awakes from the slumber.

I thought that Pink News article merited a thread of its own

So did I, I linked to this one from t'other too.

Vic, the editor of that piece, is a woman.
Pronouns they/them ... maybe has no concern for boring 'she' women nor comprehension that mature blokes with wives and daughters might actually have some understanding of them?

Maybe Vic is an undercover GC feminist. This is one of the best articles I've read summarising all the arguments against mixed toilets. Surely all women have had a period disaster at some point in their lives? I know I certainly have!

Either that, or a serious case of internalised misogyny....

The tone of that article is hilarious, honestly. It sounds like a huffy teenager writing on their Tumblr.

And then you remember that politicians take Prick News seriously and it's not so funny any more.

TheProdigalKittensReturn

Unfortunately, I think you may be right - down to lobby groups and money - big money.

Don't forget they also like to bandwagon jump, and the wheels are coming off this one at a rate of knots.

More reason to admire Lord Lucas!

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Lord Lucas:

Following my debate on gender-neutral communal toilets, I would like to know more about such facilities in, or proposed for, schools. I should like understand how menstrual flooding is handled, and what makes for good practice. I should be v grateful for your views and experience

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I'm not on Twitter, but I'd like to answer here, if I may. Menstrual products have changed in recent years, and whilst it's great that there are now more sustainable products on the market, it can be a problem dealing with them in public toilets. Menstrual cups need to be washed before reuse, preferably in very hot water. I've only been using one for a short time and so haven't washed one in a public toilets yet, and to be honest even in a ladies loo I'd feel self-conscious due to the taboo that exists around periods, even between women. What I'd really like to see is a dedicated sink for this purpose (and for rinsing underwear etc) in women's toilets. This would help to take away some of the stigma, as well as encourage the use of more sustainable products.

Nice to see his tweet is getting retweets, likes and positive comments!

Men need free access to women's bodies! We'll educate you to accept that! And then we'll educate them not to rape us so often!

Thanks for that. I think I'll pass.

It apparently did not occur to Lord Lucas that the better solution, rather than maintaining the status quo of women having a “space where they can be free of… overt male sexual behaviours” could be to work harder to address sexual harassment and male violence against women.

Oh. My. God.

Thank FUCK this brilliant publication has explained to us that all we need to do to be safe is tell men not to sexually harass or be violent to women.

Because that works.

I've been waiting for a solution to the results of a well entrenched patriarchal society that denies misogyny in plain sight and at LAST someone has solved it!

Imagine the cheek of women asking to maintain the status quo of one safe space for themselves at their most vulnerable. We really are a selfish people us vagina havers aren't we.

FFS. How is this happening in 2020.

I veer between angry, sad and shocked on about an hourly basis at the moment.

A lot of the replies on the tweet are essentially saying weekend periods are a health hazard and blood in sinks etc shouldn't be happening how the fuck are we supposed to wash our hands even

Fucks sake

Meanwhile you get men wanking in the bogs and that's a personal private matter also, depending on the situation, possibly stunning and brave...

It apparently did not occur to Lord Lucas that the better solution, rather than maintaining the status quo of women having a “space where they can be free of… overt male sexual behaviours” could be to work harder to address sexual harassment and male violence against women.

Thing is, he is "work[ing] harder to address sexual harassment and male violence against women." By advocating the retention of single sex spaces. This dipshit knows it, too. But so much more palatable to pretend you can train all men, overnight, out of being a risk, and all women, overnight, out of fearing that risk.

The fact her only argument is this ridiculously and transparently specious one is evidence for us, not them.

It’s not just the technicalities of periods either is it?

How many of us have had the little cry in the toilets when a period arrives when trying to conceive, or on seeing the first spotting of a miscarriage, or the embarrassment of changing your underwear because you sneezed while heavily pregnant, or your toddler makes a (loud) embarrassing comment about your anatomy in the cubicle, or you have to wee with the door half open to fit your pram into the toilets or the private activity of morning sickness vomiting when no one at work knows you’re pregnant, or IBS or Crohn’s disease....

And doubtless myriad other things we find embarrassing/stressful even without men watching/listening in.

I also don't understand all the comments, lots of them, saying gender neutral facilities are enclosed single ones with their own sink so why the fuss.

It's total nonsense so I don't know why they are posting it. Surely no one can miss old style ladies having the sign changed to gender neutral, while the configuration remains the same (and illegal if provided by a public body iirc).

I suspect those people are accessing disabled loos. The entitlement is unlikely to end at women's facilities, after all.

I do not think that any woman really wants to wash her bloody underwear when she has flooded during a period in front of men,” said Lucas, who, despite what this statement would have you believe, has been married to three women and has two daughters

I mean. What a truly odd paragraph. What is their starting point - are they are saying the norm (obviously) is that women want to wash bloody underwear in front of women? That women don't have floods during their period?

Good on Lord L.

Urgh, one of my female friends has just posted about this on FB, calling Lord Lucas a dinosaur and wondering if he's ever met an actual woman. My friend calls herself a feminist. I despair.

I must admit I've never seen someone wash their pants in the loo so while it happens it's probably not that common and there are a whole host of things that we want to do away from men in addition.

The point about women sleeping rough is a good one, who are under a multitude of difficulties, let alone with nowhere away from men to wash, try to clean clothes etc.

@SapphireSeptember that's so odd! I genuinely don't understand what the logic is meant to be? WHAT is being a dinosaur about his position - it is PERPLEXING. Did she clarify what she meant???

Are we all meant to be so cool about periods that we shouldn't worry about being discrete with it?

I don't think we should be ashamed about periods but its still a bodily function.

I've had to wash knickers and a skirt in the loos at work because I flooded. Dried it with the hand dryer. Had to borrow a friends gym towel.

I cannot imagine ANY of my non pervert male colleagues would have been even remotely comfortable walking into and seeing that.

Crying, hiding, miscarrying, washing blood off hands, asking a random woman for a tampon, using machine to get some, makeup, hair, etc etc I don't want to do any of these things in front of men tbh.

The argument seems to be that the solution to period shame type stuff is to make women and girls do it all with men around, and for sex offences report then afterwards.

It's arse about face. Putting girls and women in situations where they feel embarrassed, unsafe, at risk isn't the solution. Women will feel safe and not embarrassed when period stigma is gone and men stop with the sex offences.

People who say this, I don't know what they are thinking. Like someone online who said that it's bad girls are embarrassed about their developing bodies and getting them to undress in front of men might help them get over it wtf