Female violence has tripled in the last decade

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I read this statistic in an article about Caroline Flack earlier today and thought there must be some caveat, but it's seemingly true.

Women now commit almost a third of domestic assaults and charities estimate the true figure to be much higher due to the stigma men face in coming forward - this is backed up by other studies which show that the number of assaults against men always comes out higher when interviewing women rather than men (i.e. more women apparently admit to having assaulted their partner than men admit to having been assaulted).

I'm a bit shocked by this and surprised it's not been mentioned on here.

There have been several discussions of domestic violence/assault statistics.

Which search terms did you use to look for them?

Interesting - can you link the url with the statistics?

I'm not sure I can find the article again as it was one of those ones that pops up as a header on my phone and it's gone now. I can probably find the one about violence tripling as think it was in Spectator or Telegraph.

Not the one I read but it's about the same recently released police data.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7930231/amp/Domestic-abuse-women-triples-decade-female-attackers-carrying-assaults.html

It's not a great starting point for a discussion if you have nothing to back it up.

What do you mean? The data is from the police.

Golly gee wilikers that's the same time (since 2009) police started secretly recording transwomen as female in crime stats.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that crime figures have been recorded by gender identity rather than biological sex for a few years now. So it is possible that some of this rise is not biological women. It could be, or it could not be.

Fair point, but are there enough transwomen in relationships with men to be able to make up a third of domestic violence incidents? I'd be very surprised.

According to women’s aid, ‘From April 2014 to March 2017, 73% of victims of domestic homicides (homicides by an ex/partner or family member) were women.’

Also (in case people wonder what my 'agenda' is), my brother is in a relationship with an extremely manipulative woman who has been violent to him in the past. It's something that resonates with me and I've found that many women (and men) seem to be dismissive of it, both in real life and on here.

Frazzledrock, I think it meant domestic violence as a whole, not just homicides. The former is much more common with police attending 2000 incidents a day, whilst I think the latter is something like 100 a year.

According to women's aid, in the year ending March 2018, 92% of defendants in domestic abuse cases were male. Domestic abuse is a crime which disproportionately affects women and is overwhelming committed by men.

Of course men can also be victims and women can be perpetrators. Domestic abuse services in the uk support men and women.

Hopefully your brother will get the support he needs.

Very sorry to hear your brother has suffered violence at the hands of his partner - and for you too, supporting someone in an abusive relationship is no picnic either.

As well as self-identified transwomen and women being conflated in official crime statistics, don’t forget DARVO tactics as well - abusers accusing their victims of abuse themselves is not uncommon.

The fact that 1 in 9 ‘female’-perpetrated ‘attacks’ are recorded in a single police force - West Yorkshire - should give immediate pause for thought on the validity/true representativeness(?) of these numbers.

Looks like this data comes from a FOI request by The Sunday Telegraph www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/01/25/attacks-family-members-women-rise-twice-fast-men-new-report/ - I think FOI requests are public aren’t they, can anyone find it? What is being classed as an ‘attack’ here - a report? a charge? a conviction?

This claim has been made for quite a long time.

Karen Ingala Smith has a very clear explanation of these statistics:

kareningalasmith.com/2013/04/29/this-thing-about-male-victims/

Domestic violence isn't just between partners though as I understand it. As social care is cut more and more people are becoming family carers, and I suspect this is disproportionately women.

Until he died last year i was my Fathers carer, and while i never snapped i certainly came close to breaking point more than once and can understand how easy it would be to shout, hit out, give a good shaking etc etc etc all of which would have been included as domestic violence.

Brilliant assessment from KIS, thanks for the link Royal

Although misreporting gender instead of sex is going to be a factor, I think there is also more awareness and slightly less shame around men reporting violence by women. Which does happen. I personally know one case where a woman batters her husband and he doesn't defend himself even though, physically, he could.

I think KIS says it all

In the Mail article, it says:

"Attacks by women on family members jumped three-fold from 27,762 in 2009 to 92,409 in 2018, with a ninth of all incidents being recorded in West Yorkshire alone."

It's a striking figure and I'd like to know what's behind it. I suspect part of it is better reporting - in much the same way that reports of rapes have risen dramatically over the past few years, from 20,751 in 2013 to 58,657 in 2018.

We also know that incidents of domestic abuse as a whole have risen during that time. In 2019, police recorded 746,219 domestic abuse-related crimes, an increase of 24% from the previous year.

The other interesting thing is it says that women are attacking family members, but it doesn't say who. So it could be husbands, children, parents, female partners.

The other thing we don't know is how severe those assaults were. We do know that assaults by men on women are often very severe, and two women a week are killed by a partner or former partner.

Hmm. On a day when yet another woman is reported murdered by her husband when she was in the process of leaving him.
That article by Karen Ingala Smith explains it perfectly. And, given the police's wilful determination to class abuse by born men as women's crimes, I now steer clear of any sex specific data from that source.

As many PP have said, there is a major problem with the analysis of female crime statistics because anatomical males are being allowed to self identify as females and their crimes are recorded in accordance with their wishes. This is nonsensical and it renders the data meaningless. There is an increase in crime because there is a perception it has zero consequences. The liberal approach to crime has been an abject failure, but it has dominated policy for the last 23 years. No sign of it ending despite lame promises by the current government.

Women can certainly be foul, aggressive and violent too. I sometimes see disputes between homeless people on the streets in town - including women shouting at men. However, i always have an instinctive fear when this happens, because I know how much more vulnerable women are to physical violence and sexual assault....of the seriously damaging type.

I've also seen male partners ( not necessarily homeless ones) screaming at, and threatening their cowering female partners, on the street too. Typically the woman is disempowered and genuinely scared and you just know that so much more must go on behind closed doors out of the public gaze.

I feel similarly when I see adults, women ( mothers) included, being abusive to children in public. I find it almost impossible not to step in.....children are powerless in such situations and cannot defend themselves.

RoyalCorgi
Thank you for the link. I have googled one of the cases cited by its author and the sentence this killer received is truly shocking. He only got seven years.
www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-somerset-21894015

My god what a misleading article. For a start you assume and correlate as the Mail does (doubtless deliberate) that domestic abuse and violence are the same thing. They are not. One may involve no physical violence whatsoever, which the abuse. That does not make abuse okay, but it does make it very misleading in say that women are responsible for “attacks” in a third of cases.

More interesting would be to see rates of prosecution against women for violence in the home. I bet good money that figure is still tiny.