Deed poll process needs 'attention' to ensure trans people are not being outed, says High Court judge

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The process of changing your name by deed poll “needs close attention” to ensure that trans people are not being outed, a High Court judge has said.

Master Victoria McCloud says the process for changing a name by deed poll is "very public" because High Court staff publish old and new names on the internet via a notice in the London Gazette, the official newspaper of the Government.

She says the process can lead to people who have changed their name as a result of changing their gender being outed and has suggested that the issue should be drawn to the attention of a senior judge.

Master McCloud, who herself transitioned from male to female and changed her name, outlined her concerns in a ruling, which has been published online, relating to four people who had changed their names....

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/17/deed-poll-process-needs-attention-ensure-trans-people-not-outed/

Its like every part of the decisions making arms of society have now been infiltrated by trans rights activists.

How do we keep up with what they are doing letting alone stopping them.

...why would you want to stop trans rights activists? Surely trans people deserve rights?

I want to talk about the Master's ruffle...

Instead, I want to know why it was fine for everybody else's name changes to be public, but not for those people who self ID as the opposite sex.

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Instead, I want to know why it was fine for everybody else's name changes to be public, but not for those people who self ID as the opposite sex.

This ^ 100% this ^

What is the policy behind the existing rules making name changes public? There will be one. Presumably it is to avoid people escaping responsibilities/embarking on fraud/ deceiving others. Are trans rights activists saying transpeople should be allowed to do these things?

This whole outing is nonsense anyway. We can tell.

Are trans rights activists saying transpeople should be allowed to do these things?

It appears that way. So...

Surely trans people deserve rights?

So are you saying anybody who says they are transgender deserves MORE rights than people who don't self ID as the opposite sex?

But you don't have to do it this way. See:

www.deedpoll.org.uk/IsADeedPollRegisteredAnywhere.html

It appears that trans people, like anyone else, can change their name by deed poll & not enrol it so there's no publicity.

What's the problem, or have I misunderstood something?

From the article it implies that when you name change it is then published in the London Gazette, ie what the old name was, what the new name is.

But only if you have followed the Enrollment of Deeds(?) process. (Does this make it more legal than not going through this process?)

So the Judge is saying if you do this you will be "outed".

I cant track down the court case this came up in, but it is supposedly online.

What's the problem, or have I misunderstood something?

In the link you gave it explains what the benefit is of registering it.

This is the judgment in question:

www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2020/279.html

When I asked if I'd misunderstood, I meant is there any requirement for trans people to do their name change in a certain way, or can they choose. It seems they can choose, so what's the problem?

No one, at any time ever, should be able to change their name without their previous name being on record.
It's basic safeguarding and common sense.

It's very interesting that the phrase 'being outed" is used. It's another conflation with gay rights, when gay people had to stay under the radar. The phrase being dead named has gone by the wayside.
Language matters, human beings cannot change sex.
When men are considering rape, they always know which human is a women.
When women are desperately trying to minimise being raped, they always know which human is a man.

Changing your name should be very public. I believe It should be so public that your id should list all your old names or at least indicate it is an altered identity.

I would grant exemptions to people in witness protection or who are hiding from long-term stalkers. But those kind of cases would have all sorts of judicial involvement anyway, the records would just be sealed.

A link between names needs to be recorded somewhere for all people. How would Clare’s law operate if someone were to change name for example as a way to break a link between previous conviction for DV or for fraud or a DBS. It is not a specifically trans issue either way.

Thanks for the link to the actual case. Should have suspected it would be about"affirming" under age children.

And agree, that the language of outing is deliberate to try and perpetuate the arguement that those opposing trans identity are the same as those who supported Clause 28.

It's just frightening who many people who have positions of power / influence are part of the trans arm. A fifth column of MRAs and TRAs appearing to be part of progressive politics.

Entryists using weasel words to bemuse the young and naive.

So is Master their name or a job title?

No - if you change your name (apart from witness protection) then why hide it? It’s not exactly a secret if someone has don’t this for this particular reason.

Master is a job title, it's a kind of judge.

Master McCloud has been honoured as one of 100 women in law role models to celebrate 100 years since women were allowed to practice as lawyers.

Which is an interesting way to mark a very recent example of discrimination against women on the basis of their sex.

www.law.ox.ac.uk/people/master-victoria-mccloud

Interesting - i’d not seen that before and was wondering if it was an odd first name choice!

Funny how some people always push themselves forward for the womans lists and accolades after a relatively short time.

If you see up thread there are supposedly benefits (legal nicety) of following the public route which some people might want or need.

Its explained in the link you gave!

I'll just leave this here

www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/26/900-sex-offenders-have-disappeared-police-radar-changing-names/amp/

The opportunity for men who are criminals to exploit any changes are obvious.