Labour scraps male and female loos at party HQ

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Insiders say that staff are angry at a decision to convert the traditional 'gents' and 'ladies' loos in the Westminster building for use by anyone, whatever their sex.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7982655/Labour-scraps-male-female-loos-party-HQ-favour-gender-neutral-toilets.html

Oh, dear….. Welcome to reality, Labour.

I'm... I'm honestly surprised they're only just now doing this, considering their ideology. We'll have to wait and see how the members respond (the article doesn't say much, and I imagine it will take a little time before we hear more)

Oh FFS.

"We'll have to wait and see how the members respond "

Seriously?
We know how they will respond. The left is now a fully functioning cult where if you dare say the wrong thing you lose your social standing, friends and even your job.
Nobody will say anything.

Are there any GC voices in the Labour party?

I know the SNP is very woke but still has some prominent GC members.

I think women should make a point of using the toilets with urinals and when the men object maybe they will change them back to single sex.

I'm a Labour member and I don't support this. It doesn't sound like the people who work there have been asked their opinions. Why does Jennie Formby get to decide?

Why are you a Labour party member pot?
You clearly don't agree with their current ideology.

Well that gives some oomph to the phrase 'shit, or get off the pot' doesn't it.

LGBT History month - Let's celebrate by forcing everyone to use mixed sex loos. Let's go back more than a century, make everyone share the same intimate spaces and make it additionally hard for women to feel safe.

How progressive.

But....Labour has generally embraced such 'inclusivity' so let's see what that looks like when this madness enters the party's HQ.

The announcement came from general secretary Jennie Formby to mark the start of LGBT History Month. what has this to do with LGB exactly?

That's exactly what I thought Lord

And we know they won't have asked women. The chances are this will have been advocated by the undesirable types who are desperate to have access to women when vulnerable in toilets with the rest of them being too frightened to object.
Look for the pervert is usually a good recommendation in these cases

Why are you a Labour party member pot?
You clearly don't agree with their current ideology.

Just wanted to say that I left the party over this issue, but I respect women who stayed on to fight. I doubt if most members will be in agreement with the party's stance on sex and gender, but there's a strong tendency to toe the party line and to sideline women's issues in favour of 'more important' issues. Women are always told there will be time to get round to our stuff after we get into power.

I stopped believing that things or people will suddenly change once they get in, if they're sexist now, they can't suddenly do different. Plus I've been round the block already with witch hunts in the party and I just wasn't up for it again, and I really couldn't imagine going to the doorstep telling working class people they don't know what sex their babies are.

To me, that indicated a huge gap between party activists and ordinary working class people, and look what happened at the election! It looks like instead of learning from that and going back to their roots, they're digging in deeper. It's such a tragedy for the left and a huge betrayal of women and the working class. And working class women most of all, if we're being intersectional. Good luck to those who stay and fight, but I can't work for a party that despises women.

I always thought loos were gender neutral. Any gender, Male sex and any gender , female sex

Why are you a Labour party member pot?
You clearly don't agree with their current ideology.

For myself, I recently joined the Labour party because of this issue. With Corbyn going, it seemed like a really good time to get involved and make sure that GC voices start to be heard. I know a number of women who've done the same.

Fair point Pywife2, but I don't believe a political party is a homogeneous entity, if it was then change would never happen. I continue to agree with much of what Labour stands for and definitely agree with their beliefs more than the beliefs of the Conservatives. Many feminists support Posie Parker while not agreeing with all she stands for.

Sorry, that was meant to be to CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost. In my defence, I'm a Social Care shift worker with a fuzzy brain.

Well that gives some oomph to the phrase 'shit, or get off the pot' doesn't it.

Seriously though it’s only a massively sexist workplace that will be making sure women have nowhere to go to be away from men.
Single sex toilets are already inherently gender neutral. Express your feelings of ‘masculinity’ or ‘femininity’ however you want in the toilets appropriate to your sex.

Very very bad optics for a national political party to do this to their staff. But as Labour already have put this well into their politics it seems inevitable. I am really sorry for the Labour women stuck with this. Hopefully this will galvanise a fightback from the inside against their sexist, homophobic policies, but perhaps the women (those who can and have options) will just leave if they can’t stand it.

Anyone thinking about taking away women’s single sex toilets provision should read this:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3203454-What-do-you-use-the-womens-toilets-for

Oh and I voted Labour at the recent GE Captain Kirk. I don’t consider that supporting this ideology though.

I’ve never been into the men’s loos at work but the males in my office are always complaining how cold, smelly and generally grim they are. I don’t want to share!

Fight on Potholepalace! I was really torn about leaving Labour, and I admire people who stayed in for the reasons you and Chattylion mention.

I guess if they'd won the election, though, we'd be looking at mixed loos in workplaces across the country. And an increase in the use of hate speech as a way of shutting down debate, which is very scary coming from government. There would have been practical consequences for women if they had been elected.

Oh and I voted Labour at the recent GE Captain Kirk. I don’t consider that supporting this ideology though.

It was in the manifesto, so it is supporting, even if it's indirect. I don't blame you at all for voting labour though, there was no party to vote for.

Labour have royally screwed the balance of power up now anyway, there's too many of one party making decisions, that's never good.

I guess if they'd won the election, though, we'd be looking at mixed loos in workplaces across the country. And an increase in the use of hate speech as a way of shutting down debate, which is very scary coming from government.

We currently have this.

I personally can’t wait for Jenny Formby to get her wish and to have to change a mooncup in a cubicle where a bloke has pissed all over the toilet seat and left a giant shit.

Women need to start making clear that if there are no single sex toilets in the building then they will be taking the time now to go to another building - or home if necessary - in order to use the loo.

And it's no good wittering about loss of time/ productivity, that's the cost of Wokeness. If you're good with excluding some females and sending them back to a time where they had to look for somewhere safe to pee, or go home to pee, or to change sanwear, then you can suck up the cost. Female people having female facilities was what allowed females to come to work. Female people are not going to suck up the cost and disadvantage of this nice little gesture to make males happier.

Oh that made me laugh. Sorry and I know it's bad for women but you know, if just one of those Labour wokesters now feels uncomfortable at having to actually walk the walk then who knows, good may yet come of it.

Does anyone know how they've done it? Sealed cubicles? Additional spaces Or an Old Vic style job where the men suddenly have more choice and women less?