Men drinking breast milk

[RoyalCorgi]

I hadn't come across this before. Another way in which women's bodies are commoditised and exploited.

www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/jan/28/she-cant-say-no-the-men-who-take-breast-milk-from-babies

I read this earlier today and it gave me the rage. It's nothing more than selfish entitled male perversion. The poor women, and the poor babies, in most cases that breast milk may be the best nutrition they'll ever get.

I have heard of men drinking breast milk as a fetish thing

Some women will sell their milk to men for them drink

Some men breast feed because they enjoy it

But I’ve never heard of it being done like this. And it’s sickening and I bet a lot more common then we think

Dear god.

There really is no end to the depths of certain men's depravity, is there.

“She can’t say no because the men become obsessed with their rights over her body and don't want to stop. If women say no, we will become violent, because we can,” he said.

^And YESSSS! Change the bloody language.

There is a belief in some communities that breast milk has energising and curative powers, even curing diseases such as HIV and Aids
Tbh this is what I was expecting to see before I even read the article, as PP said, like the raping virgins myth. Sickening and depressing. I feel like I’m not for this world, there’s just too much of this shit, it’s constant. I’m in awe of those who can campaign and rail against it. As a mother and stepmother to five daughters, I sometimes feel overwhelmed by the appalling state of FWR across the whole world, it’s 2020 for fucks sake.

Hideous. Those poor women (and babies).

I imagine this is just the tip of the iceberg.

This is so awful why are there so many fucking awful men on this planet?

What the fuck is wrong with these men?

Jesus. It’s what the slave owner’s sons do to the mother in Toni Morrison’s Beloved - pin her down and steal her milk. So I guess it’s not a new thing.

Full disclosure, I'm a lesbian, so not into men anyway. But how the hell you women can bring yourselves to have anything to do with men continues to baffle me. I know, NAMALT, but increasingly it seems as though huge numbers are exactly like that.

Well if there is a way for a woman's body to be used for the pleasure of a man it will be done, don't find it at all surprising....repulsive but not surprising.

My 2y9month tried to re suckle after I had my baby and couldn't do it so the amount of pressure a man would have to use to extract colostrum is abhorrent along with the issues of adult teeth. Also ditto to the language used, of I'm reading it right they were interviewing a man who did this but he's removed himself from the narrative.

The worst thing is I’m not actually fucking surprised, of course If there is a way men can abuse women and babies for their benefit/comfort then they will.

I just wish I didn’t know about it.

Judashascomeintosomemoney I feel like this too. Like I should be doing something, campaigning but I just feel like I can’t cope with it, can’t bear to think about it.

justcly I was just thinking what a massive effort it is not to hate men sometimes. I live with one (who I love) and I have sons, but if that wasn't the case I'm not sure I'd bother with them anymore tbh. There really are so many fucking horrible men out there.

Just adding my voice to those saying: just when you think your opinion of men as a class can’t get any lower, then appears an article like that.

And yet... I’m also not surprised?

GrumpyHoonMain

It is often grounds for family to intervene, end marriages and take back their daughters and any children - my guess is the women this article is talking about are the ones without a support system.

Why don't these women have a support system do you know?
Are they away from their family's?

So it is typically done by men who have Hiv and are looking for a cure?

Often a women is forced to breastfeed multiple men in their family before their baby.

That's heartbreaking to even read.
All these men in one family, and
they are all doing it as a cure against HIV? Or to prevent?
And what of the man in the article who said he feels like a Prince.
So it is about their gratification too.

I hope you don't mind all the questions just from your post you seemed to have some knowledge of it.

Haworthia
It's frightening that it isn't surprising.

I read this earlier today and just felt so profoundly gloomy. Those poor women knowing there is nothing at all they can do to stop their breasts being abused like this. While their babies suffer.

'The black black heart of a brute like you're comes to mind, though the context is hardly appropriate.

I was aware of this as a fetish as well but not in this context.

It's sickening and depressing and shows how females are genuinely vulnerable and oppressed because of their sex.

I know what regular readers will say. "Oh she is moaning about her marriage again" . I submitted to this because I thought I had no choice.The thought of my breasts being touched, sexually , turns by stomach. I thought I had to put up with this because it was the norm! God Bless Mumsnet, I have learned so much. The existence of marital rape for instance. \I feel such a fool.

percheron67

That sounds awful. I'm so sorry.

\I feel such a fool.

Please don't.

I don't have the vocabulary to respond to that article.

That must be so painful my 2 year weaned dc but was desperate to feed with my newborn and tried to latch. It was so very painful. An adult for an hour? Horrific.

Poor women and poor babies.

Ffs, just when you thought you'd heard it all. Poor women, poor children.

Fucking men

As well as the fetish thing, (often prostituted women, "milk maids" ) the drinking of breast milk is promoted on the bodybuilding scene.

On the other hand, I have never heard of women abusing men for their excretions in this way. Unless one counts the misconception that women get pregnant to trap a man, which IME is usually the other way around.

I thought I read (somewhere, ages ago) that it’s not possible, beyond a point, to breastfeed, due to the size of the adult teeth and jaw.

As far as I can remember, the main difference is that a baby, but not an adult, has the right anatomy to create a sufficiently strong intra-oral vacuum to suction milk out of the breast.

The ability of the lips to to form a good seal and the coordinated motion of the tongue, creating the vacuum then moving to swallow is a reflex motor pattern.

New Scientist Bumpology: Ultrasound reveals breastfeeding mechanics - video
www.newscientist.com/article/dn18890-bumpology-ultrasound-reveals-breastfeeding-mechanics/

This ability and pattern is lost with age, due to anatomical changes. So an older child or adult would have to actively suck and drag on the nipple and "knead" the breast to squeeze milk out, like milking an animal by hand

I haven't read the article yet - it sounds horrific! Those poor women - and the babies denied proper nutrition.

This is so sickening!

percheron67 I am sure you will find nothing but sympathy here!

I don't even know what to say to this. What kind of person literally steals food from their own infant? And that's before you even get to the sexual connotations and the piffle about how princely it makes the men feel.