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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Harry Miller describes threats

42 replies

BovaryX · 27/01/2020 07:59

Harry Miller describes how his life has been upended and how he and his family have been subjected to threats on social media. He describes the absurd crime non crime category as double think at its finest

Fighting this has put me and my family in the public spotlight and our finances at significant risk... I suffered extreme mental distress as I struggled to balance doing the right thing with defending my family

Meanwhile, on the anniversary of George Orwell's death, Dorian Lynskey makes this comment about there being no laws in Orwell's dystopia:

How can you have a police state without any laws? The idea is that at least with laws, even in an authoritarian state, people know what they are and can measure their behaviour against them

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feetfreckles · 27/01/2020 08:27

Share token anyone? At this rate I may need to subscribe to the times.

BovaryX · 27/01/2020 08:31

I apologise feetfreckles I can't seem to do share tokens. Does this work?

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/ex-officer-in-transgender-tweet-case-says-he-received-threats-bswmz525r

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Cuntysnark · 27/01/2020 08:32

I’m waiting for the comments. I tried to share but only got the original link. Hope someone bobs along shortly who knows how!

Cuntysnark · 27/01/2020 08:33

Ok I typed too slowly!

Uncompromisingwoman · 27/01/2020 08:34

BovaryX
If you look under the photo you'll see the word share and 3 logos. Click on the little envelope and that will take you to a pre set email option. Just cut and paste the link in that and it will post as a share token.

BovaryX · 27/01/2020 08:35

Uncompromising
Thank you!

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Uncompromisingwoman · 27/01/2020 08:35

Photo at the top of the article I should say.

BovaryX · 27/01/2020 08:37

I thought you would be interested in this story from The Times Ex-officer in transgender tweet case says he received threats www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ex-officer-in-transgender-tweet-case-says-he-received-threats-bswmz525r?shareToken

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BovaryX · 27/01/2020 08:38

Thank you Uncompromising
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GirlDownUnder · 27/01/2020 08:48

Comments are incoming.

First one is positive
ConcernedOfIslington
NOW
A brave man, I wish him well. Perhaps we should all stop being quite and get the bullies out of the playground.
Are we sheep or sheepdogs?

GirlDownUnder · 27/01/2020 08:52

BovaryX Just as a heads up, I couldn't open the article from the most recent link you posted, and looking at the link Uncompromising posted, yours looks like it's missing a bunch of numbers at the end.

Cheers for the thread tho Brew

BovaryX · 27/01/2020 08:55

GirlDownUnder thank you for telling me Sad

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Clymene · 27/01/2020 08:59

I could open it Smile

Lordfrontpaw · 27/01/2020 09:00

Until the police get their heads out of their orifices and start visiting those who issue threats (and not those who state biology) then this will get worse until someone is killed - and the victims family made to apologise to the murdered a for hurting their feelings. Big red letter posters, public humiliation...

GirlDownUnder · 27/01/2020 09:02

I could open it

I'll be clearer - I could open the article but it wasn't shared, so I was being asked to subscribe to read in full.

GirlDownUnder · 27/01/2020 09:06

Until the police get their heads out of their orifices and start visiting those who issue threats

Exactly- Harry says he and his family faced threats of being skinned alive and raped. I wonder just how much manpower the police put in to tracking down, and 'having a word' with the perpetrators of actual threats rather than Harry's crime/non-crime of retweeting a limerick or tweeting "Huh?" ?

Lordfrontpaw · 27/01/2020 09:07

Isn’t there a police complaints procedure that is independent?

Steamfan · 27/01/2020 09:08

I really don't understand why those who are making threats - both in Harry's case, and Selina Todd's, and apparently nothing is done.It;s a dreadful state of affairs

Lordfrontpaw · 27/01/2020 09:10

Police protecting the most badly treated minority group in the history of the world surely?

Melroses · 27/01/2020 09:14

I really don't understand why those who are making threats - both in Harry's case, and Selina Todd's, and apparently nothing is done.It;s a dreadful state of affairs

Which makes tracking down the retweeter of a bad non limerick directed at no one in particular rather sinister.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 27/01/2020 09:14

Is the belief that if you're part of a group deemed vulnerable then you couldn't possibly pose a threat to others? Or just that if you do it doesn't matter/they deserve it?

Michelleoftheresistance · 27/01/2020 09:25

Staggering isn't it?

A limerick questioning transgenderism not remotely against the law = hate. Police all over it checking thinking and making threats it's so serious.

Threats to rape and skin alive which actually is against UK law = meh. Just part of life's rich pattern. Who cares?

Madness. Although a brilliant example to put before the press of the immense double standards involved. Only one side of this debate ever does actual 'hating' and wishing harm on others, while the care for not causing offense or hurting other people's feelings is supposed to be one way only: TRAs certainly never lead by example on the way they demand to be treated by others. What they see as perfectly acceptable to dish out to others would outrage them and cause all hell to break loose if someone dared to reflect it back to them.

And it is done largely based on the security that people like Harry are law abiding, stable people acting within the typical social contract, and therefore will reliably be the adult in the situation. As they haven't stooped to this kind of toddler lashing out since early childhood.

wellbehavedwomen · 27/01/2020 09:44

Yep. All activists are equal, but some are more equal than others.