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Harry Miller describes threats

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BovaryX · 27/01/2020 07:59

Harry Miller describes how his life has been upended and how he and his family have been subjected to threats on social media. He describes the absurd crime non crime category as double think at its finest

Fighting this has put me and my family in the public spotlight and our finances at significant risk... I suffered extreme mental distress as I struggled to balance doing the right thing with defending my family

Meanwhile, on the anniversary of George Orwell's death, Dorian Lynskey makes this comment about there being no laws in Orwell's dystopia:

How can you have a police state without any laws? The idea is that at least with laws, even in an authoritarian state, people know what they are and can measure their behaviour against them

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langclegflavoredbananamush · 27/01/2020 10:16

I really don't understand why those who are making threats - both in Harry's case, and Selina Todd's, and apparently nothing is done.It;s a dreadful state of affairs

They are, as our much missed Lang Cleg said, a "sacred caste." But this sacred caste hasn't seen enough sunshine yet- I'm still hoping some more will do the trick.

snowblight · 27/01/2020 11:32

I'm assuming, especially seeing as he's an ex-police officer, that Harry kept evidence of these threats and reported them to the authorities?

Uncompromisingwoman · 27/01/2020 11:59

I really don't understand why those who are making threats - both in Harry's case, and Selina Todd's, and apparently nothing is done. It's a dreadful state of affairs

This is how they operate. Threats and intimidation - physical and verbal. It doesn't occur to them to behave as decent people do because they're treated by some as a sacred caste. Certain groups and individuals will celebrate them, no matter how dangerous and anti social they are.

Uncompromisingwoman · 27/01/2020 12:11

snowblight
Harry has commented this under the article:
It’s odd, isn’t it, that me retweeting a limerick is considered a Hate post, worthy of police intervention from a Constable, an Inspector and the Assistant Chief Constable, but when I reported this, not so much as a PCSO has picked up the phone .

Women on here will not be surprised at the police's failure to take action to yet more threats from the trans lobby.

AlunWynsKnee · 27/01/2020 12:20

So a non crime is more worthy of actual police action than a crime. Glad we've cleared that up. Confused

Lordfrontpaw · 27/01/2020 12:27

Well, I'm glad that's all sorted.

Now, I suspect a coffee shop gave me regular coffee yesterday when I asked for decaf. What's the number for the hate crime squad line again? I would like to see the barista jailed, please.

Also, my mum died from possible medical negligence - stuff happens, eh?

popehilarious · 27/01/2020 12:33

OP where has that Dorian Lynskey quote come from? Is it in the context of this case?

Mockers2020Vision · 27/01/2020 12:36

The police have never been neutral and impartial. Their job description mentions "Law and Order ", and all too often it is the order part that wins out.

The law and the social order change. These changes often go hand in hand. Not at all long ago, police officers were hanging around in toilets smiling at men in the hope of getting a response. This was a victimless non-crime deemed a threat to the social order.

"Domestics" were no business of the police because they were all part and parcel of enforcing the social order. Children could be abused because no one was ever going to believe a child's word against an adult or society would collapse. Etc.

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BovaryX · 27/01/2020 12:45

pope
Radio 4 has a series on Orwell in five words. I happened to be listening to the Law episode and I thought that quote from Dorian Lynskey was particularly relevant in the context of Harry Miller's case.

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BovaryX · 27/01/2020 12:52

So a non crime is more worthy of actual police action than a crime. Glad we've cleared that up

It really is quite incredible. The police apparently no longer investigate burglaries. The statistics on rape are appalling. But 27 police forces investigated 87,000 hate incidents that were not crimes during the last five years. Public trust in the police is rapidly eroding. The Conservatives need to get a handle on this because they have been at the steering wheel for ten years whilst this BS was accelerating....

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Lordfrontpaw · 27/01/2020 12:54

We witnessed a woman being mugged by two men - one with a gun. I called the police who said that they were very busy, and they arrived about 4 hours later.

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BovaryX · 27/01/2020 13:03

We witnessed a woman being mugged by two men - one with a gun. I called the police who said that they were very busy, and they arrived about 4 hours later

Utterly dire. But they have a special limerick task force.....

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popehilarious · 27/01/2020 13:07

But 27 police forces investigated 87,000 hate incidents that were not crimes during the last five years.

Wow - do you have the source for this?

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BovaryX · 27/01/2020 13:10

It is from The Times, I will try to find it

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Lordfrontpaw · 27/01/2020 13:14

So back in the dark ages, the police didn't come out for 'just a domestic' - can't they just revise that approach to non-criminal complaints (sort it out amongst yourselves...')

So when they release details of people calling 999 to complain about getting 2 pieces of cod in their fish supper, etc ?

popehilarious · 27/01/2020 13:34

Thanks OP. Not seen those figures before. It does say that's the number "recorded" - I wonder how many were given any time (as per Harry)?

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