Today’s daily dose of LangCleg sense

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Because it bears repeating.

Great common sense & advice

Bang on. I hope this stays because if it doesn’t, it speaks volumes. Should be a sticky on every page.

Amen

(I’m sure someone will be along shortly to wilfully misinterpret that last sentence as Lang being “rude and aggressive” to some unspecified people, trans or otherwise )

Yes. This is common sense, and also has been emphasised in all safeguarding training that I have had. It is concerning to say the least that some organisations do not seem to be aware of this, or that are applying different rules in certain situations.

Spot on!!

This is excellent advice and I agree, it’s one of the first rules of safeguarding.

Clear common sense.

Shame the NSPCC are not aware of this basic principle.

Basic safeguarding - outrageous that it is openly being undermined by organisations being given access to children in schools.
When we write to our MPs, we need to highlight what is happening with children being targeted in this way. It's all there in plain sight (just as Rotherham, Savile etc happened in plain sight)

Excellent advice. Couldn’t agree more.

I miss Lang.

Agree, it's accurate, factual and approved safeguarding practise, passionately expressed.

What kind of rational people would disagree?

Exactly Chan, who would disagree with this advice?!

I am a member of an RSE fb group. They were celebrating the fact that wales has banned parental withdrawal from RSE lessons. Whilst I do believe that good sex Ed is vital, I am increasingly concerns at how it's being pitched and taught by some organisations. Porn is acceptable for example.

The way external organisations are being used to support and deliver RSE and flouting basic safeguarding makes me very worried.

Eg; promising not to tell parents or other people around disclosures of gender identity and related situations, advising that residential accommodation, changing rooms and toilets are in line with the child's gender identity, given that the child can't change sex physically or legally till over 18, as well as sporting activities. That other parents will not be informed that a male is sharing a dorm with young teens on a residential. Or a girl is sleeping in a dorm with boys.

Not too mention teaching that you can have the "wrong" body.

These guidelines by external organisations are being endorsed by LEAs. Followed by smaller non educational organisations such as GG or other youth groups.

The decentralisation of education has been a shit show.

Lang shone a light through to the heart of the muddled gaslighting of feelings and "aren't we modern accepting, bigot busting woke types."

This subject should be on the first page on all parenting websites.

There is a reason why we have just witnessed those long, long threads, because we, as parents, cannot and will not let this go. But this subject should not be hidden in FWR.
For example...
The NSPCC rubberwanking man who has since been sacked, ousted from his job as head of online communications at the NSPCC. The NSPCC tried to defend him on the official twitter calling out the criticism, as "bullying" one of their staff.
This discussion must be on the front page of a parenting site.
This is the reason it isn't going away. There are some people who push back on child safeguarding. Women will push back.

People need to be informed.
Women need to be informed.

May I humbly suggest (and quite prepared to see this post and myself banned) that rather than harassing MNHQ, if people really want to make a point they should contact the people that advertise with MN and ask them to pile on pressure ?

Just an idea.

Yes!

Who is the op referring to? Who has invited private contact from a child?

It really doesn't matter, Hooves

It's a general principle of safeguarding.

Among others, a putative ambassador for the NSPCC.

This is a great idea for the thread. It's not so much about Lang as a personality (great though it is) but about the clear sense she spoke in an accessible language.

NSPCC never apologised for working with Munroe Bergdorf did they? Munroe who encouraged kids to PM them and who made public lesbophobic and gynaephobic statements? Beyond inappropriate when you think of the already tricky atmosphere for young girls realising they are attracted to other girls.

Certain people on social media @Hooves, saying things like "If your parents don't understand you, I'll be your mummy" and "Contact me if you want to talk in private" (mentioning no names in case I get banned)

And yes, @ChanChanChan what kind of people would benefit from the erosion of safeguarding?

No they did a DARVO and told us off for being homophobic for not being thrilled with rubberman Oh and then there was the hagiography from the BBC about the martyrdom of MB.

It's a general principle of safeguarding

Of course it is. But who is breaking it? No one that I know who works with children would breach this.