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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

@JustineMumsnet please consider reinstating LangCleg after a temporary suspension. It would help so many of us. Mumsnetters please sign!

831 replies

loveyouradvice · 23/01/2020 15:35

@JustineMumsnet

We the undersigned would like to ask you to consider reinstating LangCleg after a temporary suspension, as you have done with others.

Or perhaps, consider reinstating her for a three-month trial period and then reviewing.

We know you will have realised, from the two other LangCleg threads, how much her wisdom and constant voice in support of robust safeguarding is welcomed by so many on this board. It is truly a great loss to us, and to the depth of discussion about such important matters.

We hope Justine that you might do two things:

  • Review what actually happened with LangCleg and decide whether it really was so dire that she deserves permanent expulsion, or whether perhaps there was an element of misunderstanding on your moderators' part (which Michaeel's post indicates may have happened) and, that perhaps she was being held to an inappropriately high standard compared to others
  • Review the process, so that strong voices on here are able to continue to be heard for the benefit of all Mumsnet users

Or perhaps do neither of those things, and just reinstate her because you recognise how important your other Mumsnet users find her.... I guess the equivalent of a Royal Pardon,

Please hear our voice.

And everyone on here, please do sign if you want LangCleg back - just that, a signature with any discussion continuing on the LangCleg 2 thread. A signature to say you want her back and hope that @JustineMumsnet will consider this.

Thank you - both my fellow mums netters and Justine

OP posts:
Snoopypants · 25/01/2020 21:40

Signed

GladAllOver · 25/01/2020 21:47

It's time HQ responded, one way or another.

GirlDownUnder · 25/01/2020 21:58

UPDATE

I had reported this thread to MN, and as well as tell them I was saddened by their decision, I thanked them for continuing the conversation - after all, they don't have to.

I've had a response and MN are "...reading this thread of course - and will have a discussion about it when everyone is back in the office on Monday."

I know this doesn't mean all is OK, or even that Lang will want to come back.

Can we please lay off the derailing now - this thread and its message is too important to lose to people who are happy to see Lang gone.

theflushedzebra · 25/01/2020 22:01

GirlDownUnder Wine

Jargoyle · 25/01/2020 22:04

I don't think mumsnet owe anyone an apology or review of the situation, but if they genuinely feel they've made the wrong decision then that's for them to decide.

If somebody is 'rude and aggressive' to the point that the staff no longer want to deal with them (as has been asserted) then they're lucky to be given a second chance.

FlaviaAlbiaWantsLangClegBack · 25/01/2020 22:05

Good news GirlDownUnder Smile

RubyViolet · 25/01/2020 22:07

Second chance for Lang please !

Winesalot · 25/01/2020 22:56

Signed

Carowiththegoodhair · 25/01/2020 23:08

Signed.

FriedasCarLoad · 25/01/2020 23:13

Signed.

GCAcademic · 25/01/2020 23:16

Signed.

OldCrone · 25/01/2020 23:18

Signed.

HollowTalk · 25/01/2020 23:30

Signed.

AnyOldSpartabix · 25/01/2020 23:46

I too would love to see Lang back.

JulyKit · 26/01/2020 00:10

Signed

Polestar50 · 26/01/2020 03:09

Signed

bettybeans · 26/01/2020 03:31

I truly do understand how difficult it is to moderate a forum like this but this is such a bad call. Loss of trust in Mumsnet admins and the org itself will have a greater impact than anything Lang could ever say or do. Posters like her keep your boards active, relevant and interesting whether or not admin/mods agree with what she says. Cut out the interesting people for convenience and you lose the spark (and value) that maintains public interest in what is now unfortunately a very old-fashioned form of digital comms/networking. Quality posters make all the difference. If you’re a forum, you’re only ever as good as the quality of the content generated by posters. Making decisions based on wanting a quieter mod life are understandable, but are short-sighted. That’s my tuppence. I might be considered to have spoken out of turn but so be it. I used to read obsessively (not just this board) but current mood is such that if you don’t like it and do kick me off, I won’t really be too bothered. Take from that what you will.

(Others have already covered the Lang being deserving stuff!)

Please reconsider.

LuisCarol · 26/01/2020 10:42

Signed

R0wantrees · 26/01/2020 11:00

current important thread discussing LangCleg's 'Primer on the first rule of Safeguarding*
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3803858-Today-s-daily-dose-of-LangCleg-sense#prettyPhoto/0/

SwimmingCait · 26/01/2020 14:20

signed too.

theunknownknown · 26/01/2020 15:12

signed

QwertyLou · 27/01/2020 02:42

I am really hoping that after a time of suspension, Lang might be allowed back. For me as an unplanned single mom, her safeguarding stuff is invaluable.

I’m confused at how there is “2 sides” to child safeguarding. It’s like a banning a pro-vax poster, because a site wants to be fairer to anti-vaxxers. How can children’s safety come second on a parenting site?

An idea - I have before (very politely!) emailed mods to clarify a deletion, and maybe we should stop doing this? Looking back I realised it was unwelcome, and perhaps the exchange was upsetting for them (as it was for me). Perhaps less interaction with us would make their job easier, and reduce valued (parenting advice giving) members being banned?

(Oops sorry OP, wrong place to ask, on my phone or I would copy and paste this.. apologies)

Didactylos · 27/01/2020 05:06

signed

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 27/01/2020 05:48

🙏

idsisatwat · 27/01/2020 06:01

Signed