Is trans tape any safer than a binder?

[PeggyGuggenheim]

I'm sorry if this has been discussed already but I'm in a panic, I promised my daughter I would give her a decision by tonight. I have forbidden a binder
Thank you

I hadn't heard of this but Googled.
If it's compressing breast tissue then it can't be safe.
If it's not compressing breast tissue then what's the point?

It's compressing breast tissue.

But I think less dangerous because it's to push the breasts apart, towards the armpits, and the tape wouldn't encircle the rib cage in one continuous band.

I would not let my child do this. Squashing growing breast tissue is really not a good idea.
I am so sorry you are in this position.
The irony that the woke people who shore this up would be highly critical of breast ironing.

I hope you can persuade her not to damage her breasts, OP, or at least delay till she grows out of this ideology. Have you contacted the parents’ group Transgender Trend? They have a lot of useful information. Good luck.
transgendertrend.com/

Tape is extremely damaging. Multiple sources including ones written by transgender individual back this up. Let your child buy a binder for themself as a compromise. It is better to let go of some of your ideals than compromise your child's health!

Hello. Both Binders and TransTape are safe if used properly. Binders should only be worn for 8 hours maximum, shouldn't get wet or slept in, also shouldn't be exercised in, and cleaned properly. TransTape is actually safer than a binder. You can wear TransTape for up to 5 days, you can get it wet and sleep in it. These two things are way better than you child suffering from dysphoria (The conflict from your gender and your sex) which could lead to anxiety and depression. It also can lead to your child doing something dangerous such as binding with tape. Yes binders does have its if it is done unsafely, such as broken/bruised ribs. The worst TransTape can do is give skin irritation.

OP, would a sports bra be any good? will prevent movement and generally flatten out, less separation, and they are generally very plain
so sorry you are having to ask this

"Hello. Both Binders and TransTape are safe if used properly."

Cite your evidence

like this?

There is no unbiased evidence that tape or binders are safe if used "properly". As the whole point of them is to crush growing tissue, how could they not cause harm?

There is plenty of evidence of harm. For example, from
www.transgendertrend.com/social-transition-and-chest-binding/
"Known health risks associated with chest binding include compressed or broken ribs, punctured or collapsed lungs, back pain, compression of the spine, damaged breast tissue, damaged blood vessels, blood clots, inflamed ribs and heart attacks.
Link to article here: www.ftmtopsurgery.ca/blog/ftm-faq/health-consequences-chest-binding/

"A recent study has been conducted to assess the health impact of chest binding in the transgender community.
www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13691058.2016.1191675?journalCode=tchs20

"Of the 1800 participants with experience of binding, 51.5% reported daily binding. Over 97% reported at least one of 28 negative outcomes attributed to binding. Compression methods associated with symptoms were commercial binders (20/28), elastic bandages (14/28) and duct tape or plastic wrap (13/28). Larger chest size was primarily associated with dermatological problems.

"Chest binding results in difficulties in breathing so will affect levels of activity and overall health in females who choose to bind their breasts."
www.transgendertrend.com/breast-binders-in-uk-schools/

It’s not long since women were liberated from expectations that they would wear crushing and uncomfortable corsetry and now this modern day attack on a female body, under the guise of another ideology.

I’m so sorry, OP, that you are placed in such an awful position - to have to be complicit in damaging your daughter’s growing body.

so, the manufacturers of a product say it's perfectly safe to use, what a surprise
from their description it sounds like putting massive sticking plasters on your breasts

Reported @AliviS.

Also reported.

Oh stop being so silly AliviS. You’re talking to the grownups now. We don’t fall for the emotional blackmail and lies about trans suicide.

AliviS that is a particularly damaging viewpoint. Saying that kids kill themselves because parents aren't allowing them their own way is ridiculous.

I have a child, who is trans, and I am being, and have been, very supportive, but I haven't allowed binders or blockers, because parenting a trans child is about balancing long term damage, that cannot be undone, with mental health issues, that may be resolved though other means. As parents we need to think about the long term too, and we have the benefit of knowing that teens often go through phases, and basing a lifetime of treatments and infertility and damage on, what could very well be, a phase, even if its a year or two, is utterly negligent.

Op, I have went with sports bras and minimising bras and baggy tops for my child, it has worked very well and my child feels very comfortable.

I wouldn't allow either. I would look into minimser bras (M&S used to do them) or a good quality sports bra.

I know a lot of people have said 'so sorry you have had to post this'. I apologise on their behalf. What your child has chosen to do with their body is not something to be sorry about, and whatever you're "dealing" with doesn't have to be dealt with, it's something you and your child can talk about and bond over. Your acceptance of your child is bound to make them proud of having a parent like you.

SomeonesChild most mothers on here would cut off their own arms rather than allow a child to damage themselves. There are many reasons why we do not succumb to threats of suicide. There are other ways of dealing with mental illness than physically causing damage to themselves. If someone feels this bad about themselves, it’s those inner feelings that have to change and it is not any mothers job to pretend otherwise.

It pulls the tissue apart and back, rather than constricting the whole chest in a tight hug, so it would seem like a better option (also because it gives the possibility to wear it for 5 days, say at school, whereas school followed by hanging out with friends is likely to breach the 8 hour recommended max of wearing a binder).

I wouldn't see sports bra's as an option because by the time they'd give the desired effect, they'd be entirely on par with a binder, and if they didn't, then... well, there's no point in the sports bra. Some individuals may have little breast tissue which would enable a flattened chest with a sports bra, but the average chest would still visibly be breasts, which is the whole issue for those with dysphoria.

That is, of course, assuming they want trans tape because they're dysphoric. I've also seen the same desire expressed by butch girls, tomboys and less masculine girls who don't want their chest on display and it's very nice that there's an option for them to feel comfortable or show nonconformity in their outward appearance.

Does trans tape damage the breast tissue in the same way as a binder?