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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

What can we do as a society, and as parents, to reduce the number of girls who mistakenly transition?

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ShastaBeast · 12/01/2020 02:28

Aside from addressing the issues within the medical profession.

I’ve been reading the occasional thread with interest. I’ve always been open and understanding but can also see the dangers. I know a couple of FtM people, one as a teen with ASD who seemed very much a girl, albeit a “tomboy”.

I have a nine year old awaiting an ASD assessment (she already has another diagnosis). In the last year she has embraced becoming a “tomboy” along with another girl. There’s clearly a lot of gender stereotyping going on in the playground, one eight year old girl declared she “is a tomboy because she likes robotics” (she doesn’t have brothers). DD has asked whether she is a girl or boy, and similar, before - obviously she knows she is a girl. I’ve reinforced that girls can do/dress/act however they want and it doesn’t mean they are boys, and vice versa. I remember lots of “tomboys” and women who weren’t overtly feminine (make up, dresses etc) when I was at school.

Are there any resources or thing we should do to help girls be comfortable becoming women and combat the drift towards identifying as trans? Is there anything for schools and parents specifically - our school don’t even let girls wear trousers! I want to show her that being a woman is a good thing and to see the changes to her body as positive too.

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RuffleCrow · 13/01/2020 17:45

Oh and adopt a zero tolerence approach to lesbophobia and biphobia.

stumbledin · 13/01/2020 23:23

There's a twitter thread on this on the Bayswater Support Group which was mention on another thread on FWR.
twitter.com/bayswatersg?lang=en

Thread on increase in girls transitioning twitter.com/ImWatson91/status/1216211885189746689

Not sure about the politics of this group but they are questioning affirmation as being the accepted position. This is there web site www.bayswatersupport.org.uk/

This other group was also mentioned as it looks at the pressure on young lesbians and gay boys www.genderhq.org/

OldCrone · 14/01/2020 00:26

I would say that the biggest problem, alongside social media, is the lobby groups that have pushed themselves into schools.

This is undoubtedly the biggest problem. Combating idiots on youtube is easy compared to combating what they are taught in PSHE lessons and the enthusiastic transing of children in some schools.

rodgmum · 14/01/2020 08:51

stumbledin I’m a member of Bayswater Support. There’s no politics involved at all. We’re just a group of very concerned parents who want to take a more cautious approach than the current automatic, unquestioning, untested, positive affirmation approach used by lobby groups.

I can’t believe the influence these groups have in the schools. After saying how important my DD’s therapist thinks it is for the school to remain neutral, the response was effectively, “OK, for now, but children have rights as well”. A) I’d question the legal basis for any gender ID “rights” in school and B) Are they really saying they would go against medical advice because the child wants them to? It’s exhausting.

stumbledin · 14/01/2020 14:42

Thanks rodgmum - its good to know. Smile

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