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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Unfriended after being branded a terf

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vincentsleftear · 10/01/2020 19:27

I noticed that I had been unfriended on Facebook by several women who I knew from a forum. I've since found out that one of them had decided that I was an insufferable terf because of who I followed on Twitter and posted about this. No loss to me, I think they're a load of handmaidens.
What has annoyed me is that the ringleader has updated her profile to "cishet mother of trans teen." And is absolutely revelling in this role. All I can see is that she has a very troubled, depressed daughter, but she is crowing about how wonderful it is that she now has a "son". I find her glee in her trans child quite chilling to be honest - she seems to loving scoring woke points about this, and has gone from being someone who never even named her daughter on social media to plastering photos of her all over it. Has anyone ever come across this? It feels quite exploitative to me.

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FGSJoanWhatsWrongWithYou · 10/01/2020 19:34

No surprises that the child was troubled and distressed with a mother like that.

There are a lot of troubled adults in the world. Some of them procreate.

I hope the child gets appropriate mental health care for the pre-existing depression and troubled mind.

Maybe the child's mum crowing like Edina Monsoon will actually help the teen consider the various reasons for their feelings more carefully.

FamilyOfAliens · 10/01/2020 19:36

These days being called a terf is a badge of honour.

FrogsFrogs · 10/01/2020 19:39

If her mum thinks it's much better to have a son than a daughter then rust might explain quite a bit.

Branleuse · 10/01/2020 19:43

ive lost quite a few friends over this issue. Some I miss, some I dont.
Ive gained quite a few too tough tbf

SapphosRock · 10/01/2020 19:43

If she's unfriended you it's probably time to stop looking at her profile and move on. There's clearly irreconcilable differences there.

ahumanfemale · 10/01/2020 19:45

You can't escape your home as a child, so escaping your reality by escaping your body is the next best thing.

If the child had run away and the mother responded in this way people would think her utterly vile for crowing about it in FB. Trouble is, nobody knows. It's being treated like her daughter is a brave, globe-trotting, adventurer.

Utterly disgusting and abusive.

snowblight · 10/01/2020 19:45

She sounds like a caring, understanding mother. Good luck to her.

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T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 10/01/2020 19:49

It sounds like you know my Sil, OP. She doesn’t happen to have a daughter who has a ‘close friend’, but the word lesbian is never mentioned? Homosexual/lesbian = bad
Daughter who is really a son, so can have a girlfriend = good

Honestly, that family is so screwed up.

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 10/01/2020 19:52

By the way, I’m talking about two girls in the same family. Seeing how the oldest’s sexuality is treated like a dark secret, it’s no wonder the younger one is confused.

Mummyoflittledragon · 10/01/2020 20:19

Women having a hand in their “erasure” ffs.

Novina · 10/01/2020 20:36

Sounds like this, part of a thread posted by a detrans woman:
"While I’m drunk I’m going to say some uncomfortable truths. Transition has SO much to do with appearing “cool.” "

mobile.twitter.com/ImWatson91/status/1215123107909918721

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 10/01/2020 20:39

I'd feel guilty about not being able to be there for the child but there's not much you can do about the smug, fishing for woke points mum.

Carolamc · 10/01/2020 20:47

Goodness I am getting old. I had to google 'what is a terf'. My mother would call your ex-friends attention seekers, but what do I know ?

WotchaTalkinBoutWillis · 10/01/2020 20:50

I've since found out that one of them had decided that I was an insufferable terf because of who I followed on Twitter and posted about this.

If they unfriended purely on the basis of who you follow and not what you yourself had put out there comment wise, I think that's ridiculous - just because people follow someone, doesn't automatically mean you agree with them in any way.
Not healthy to be in an echo chamber.
Far more healthy to follow a number of different viewpoints/opinions.
They'e being knobs if that's the case, their loss.

FGSJoanWhatsWrongWithYou · 10/01/2020 21:24

The average quality of your friends has now increased.

eurochick · 10/01/2020 21:38

The point about appearing cool is something I have thought for a while. Teens finding themselves have always done something to shock the olds and be "cool". At least the punk and goth scene only meant daft hair and a few piercings, not hormones and possible surgery.

thenightsky · 10/01/2020 21:42

These days being called a terf is a badge of honour.

^ this

vincentsleftear · 10/01/2020 21:45

I agree about terf being a badge of honour!

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Mummyoflittledragon · 11/01/2020 06:22

Carolamc
Looks like you’re yet to be peak transed maybe?

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 11/01/2020 06:30

That's a bit shit.
But I agree it's probably better to be labelled a TERF and left to it by the handmaidens.

SophoclesTheFox · 11/01/2020 06:32

I had exactly the same happen to me, vincent.

I was summarily unfriended and blocked on FB by a proud mum of a trans identifying teen because I said I like Sarah Ditum’s journalism. It seems that it’s unacceptable to like people’s writing if they’re the “wrong” sort of people.

Apparently she’s been posting about how bad it is when “people you think are feminists turn out to be fucking atrocious TERFs and bigots”.

I just think “mate, it’s not me being the intolerant asshole here, is it?”. I’d never said a word to her about any of this, ever, so she doesn’t even actually know what I think. The cult requires the instant excommunication on suspicion of thoughtcrime, though, so that’s what she’s done 🙄

JanesKettle · 11/01/2020 06:58

Ugh, as a mum of trans ID teen, I loathe the cheerleading mums. They are so horrible to parents who have concerns and question. I do not believe they are doing the best thing by their kids either. I hate the way they embrace 'mom of trans kid' as a identity - it's unhealthy.

It's also pitiful that they unfriend for thought crime. I have all sorts of friends - some are fairly pro-genderism, some aren't, some are religious, some atheist, some are conservative, some progressive - and yes, sometimes we disagree. On big issues, we've had to agree not to discuss a topic. But we all tolerate each others differences, because we care for each other as friends.

I'm sorry you were unfriended and branded, OP, but I think the ex-friends were probably not well placed for genuine friendship in the first place.

Agreeing with whomever mentioned 'cool'. Trans identities are indeed the new cool amongst a certain arty, progressive segment of teens. Ask me how I know!!

midcenturylegs · 11/01/2020 09:18

Janes interesting about how the 'progressive arty' uphold being trans as cool. I have nephew in a performing arts school who says he has only one 'straight' friend (all others are gay, non-binary, trans). That's his normal. His parents thankfully though (who also work in the performing arts world) have done a pretty good job at ensuring he knows biological sex is real.

Justhadathought · 11/01/2020 09:33

Isn't social media all about being in the 'right' crowd, anyway; being popular and being 'liked'? It doesn't matter. People would feel so much better about themselves and their lives if they didn't engage with social media much at all. And that includes, most pressingly, young people.It might look like companionship and friendship at the start......

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