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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Unfriended after being branded a terf

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vincentsleftear · 10/01/2020 19:27

I noticed that I had been unfriended on Facebook by several women who I knew from a forum. I've since found out that one of them had decided that I was an insufferable terf because of who I followed on Twitter and posted about this. No loss to me, I think they're a load of handmaidens.
What has annoyed me is that the ringleader has updated her profile to "cishet mother of trans teen." And is absolutely revelling in this role. All I can see is that she has a very troubled, depressed daughter, but she is crowing about how wonderful it is that she now has a "son". I find her glee in her trans child quite chilling to be honest - she seems to loving scoring woke points about this, and has gone from being someone who never even named her daughter on social media to plastering photos of her all over it. Has anyone ever come across this? It feels quite exploitative to me.

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vincentsleftear · 11/01/2020 12:29

Janes I know what you mean. My daughter has a friend from art college who identifies as male now. She has gone to art college in London and her instagram is full of photo shoots that all seem to feature her in pornified poses, it all seems very degrading.

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Mummyoflittledragon · 11/01/2020 12:40

pornified pose
Oh gosh that’s sick. She is so young.

Teajenny1 · 11/01/2020 13:17

Everyone is terf - even if they don’t know it yet.

Siameasy · 11/01/2020 18:08

There’s always an ulterior motive with these people. I had an objection and PMs from a FB friend about my Terfy opinions. Turns out she has a nephew identifying as trans. Surprise.
They are wedded to the ideology and to the be kind at all costs. There is no turning back for them.

JacquesHammer · 11/01/2020 18:10

I wonder if you and I frequented the same forum.

I’ve had a very similar experience.

Goosefoot · 11/01/2020 19:02

I do not believe they are doing the best thing by their kids either. I hate the way they embrace 'mom of trans kid' as a identity - it's unhealthy.

This seems to be a trend with a lot of parents now, mom of an kid becomes their thing. A friend of mine is not what she calls an autism mom, she spends a good deal of time talking about it and telling other people how to behave including what she calls "martyr" autism parents. It's very annoying, especially when her child is pretty much able to get along without real interventions. My SIL on the other hand rarely talks about any of that stuff or tells others how to behave, though her son is severely autistic and may never be able to live along, will wander in roads at night and so they have to sleep in the living room as he is clever with locks, and so on. Because however she considers that autism has been a bad thing for her child, my other friend considers her a bad autism parent.

It's an interesting parallel, this desire to look down on others doing it "wrong".

vincentsleftear · 11/01/2020 19:11

Jacques, it was a now largely defunct women's only forum. They did let trans women in, which I didn't object to at the time. I'd be rather less accommodating now, I think.

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Durgasarrow · 11/01/2020 20:48

It's amazing how many smart people I know who have turned the corner on this issue--who are so sick of having to toe the line and pretend that they believe that girls are boys and we should all celebrate drugging unhappy children with sex hormones and calling blue haired college students Ze and all that bullshit. Soooooooo sick of it. You just won yourself some free time to do literally anything better than waste time on people who are still brainwashed by that shit.

Qcng · 11/01/2020 21:30

This new generation coming through will have a LOT of unraveling to do, I wouldn't wish this ideology on anybody. How it's taken in so many young people is of grave concern. The "way out" involves being threatened, slurred, abused... It's an insane state of affairs.

RadFemsUnite · 11/01/2020 21:42

Sorry you had to go through this. It always feels bad to be on the receiving end. Can you get to a Woman's Place or Fair Play for Women meeting (think there are others too that organise in particular towns/cities) and have the 'well I've lost some friends through seeking the truth, but I've made some better ones who aren't delusional' experience? It has kept me sane.

vincentsleftear · 11/01/2020 22:20

That's a good idea Rad.

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Libfem37 · 11/01/2020 23:03

what gives you or anyone else the right to interfere and comment on someone's private life. If someone has a trans kid, accept it and leave these questions to the parents.

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ThumbWitchesAbroad · 12/01/2020 07:24

Talking of branding people - have you seen this lovely tweet from Usborne books?
twitter.com/JeanRhys1/status/1215945634550775808?s=19&fbclid=IwAR29rzvCKr5v5V_2jjBeAbKvKINaVP3x4xzIaJVhXlOJmFvissklP8iHF2k

Mummyoflittledragon · 12/01/2020 07:48

Omg that tweet is shocking Sad

shedquarters · 12/01/2020 09:57

The woke have rendered many words meaningless, taking any power of insult out of them. I have recently joined Twitter to find out more and fight the food GC fight, and am quickly becoming immune to it. If fact I almost see a time on Twitter as 'surf n terf'.

'Terf' is spat out like the user ha Tourettes Syndrome.

'Transphobic' also has no meaning due to massive over exposure. It is deployed as a tactic to bully and silence. This is ultimately self defeating, and concerning as it trivialises and negates actual transphobia.

Similarly words such as 'fascist' and 'Nazi' get a good airing. If I had a penny for every time I had seen or heard someone being referred to as such, I would be a kazillionaire.

There are always going to be some parents who meet their own bizzare needs through their children. Sometimes incredibly abusive and harmful, Muncheusen By Proxy.
Sadly the institutions that should be protecting them are in thrall (fear) of the woke.

shedquarters · 12/01/2020 09:58

Good GC fight, not food GC fight... Damn you predictive text! Although I like the idea of a food fight.

Justhadathought · 12/01/2020 10:04

what gives you or anyone else the right to interfere and comment on someone's private life. If someone has a trans kid, accept it and leave these questions to the parents

Social media means that nothing is private anymore. If you post information and photos on a public forum then you lose any realistic expectations of anonymity. You can't have it both ways. If you don't want to deal with what can follow - then be careful what and how you post.

RuffleCrow · 12/01/2020 10:07

Just detach, OP. There are a lot of idiots in the world gleefully spouting nonsense. Go your way, live your life and hope that sanity eventually prevails.

Justhadathought · 12/01/2020 10:08

what gives you or anyone else the right to interfere and comment on someone's private life

Isn't that 95% of what most people spend their time talking about.......it certainly looks that way to me? Facebook is there to promote your story to people. I don't use Facebook myself, but if I could google someone's name and see all sorts of stuff about their private life if I wanted to.

DelphiniumBlue · 12/01/2020 10:14

Horrible to be posting personal things about one's children. Mine gst upset if I post a picture of them at a family dinner, calling it an infringement of their privacy. If I were to post details of their sexuality or body changes , they'd cut me off!
Although none of us are stunning or brave .

Justhadathought · 12/01/2020 11:22

It is very disturbing that the adults in the room are so encouraging, even nurturing, of all of this. Scary!

Finding out your parents lied about Father Christmas's existence because they thought his existence would make your life magical and happy....is one thing.........but to find out your parents, teachers and the medical authorities actively enabled you to do harm to your growing body in the name of personal self expression is another.

Catmaiden · 12/01/2020 11:54

Yep, same has happened to me. Lots of posts on their Fb about how sad they are but a terf isn't someone they want to associate with. Ah well.

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