Here we are again - waxing

[AutumnRose1]

I’m hoping this isn’t true

But sadly I think it is

www.thepostmillennial.com/breaking-jessica-yaniv-sues-more-women-salon-owners-for-wax-job-refusal/

They don't need to even consider protected characteristics. Any business has the right to refuse a difficult customer. That is getting lost sight of.

Why are they still allowing this person to bring the exact same cases they ruled were vexatious?

Ah so it's not balls this time, ok I can see that they might rule differently. I hope not.

So it's leg waxing, still it requires being in underwear...I suppose you could wear shorts but given the history of this customer it's not going to be the outfit of choice is it.

As PP says, it's perfectly legal to refuse anyone a service. I could understand a man or woman not wanting to wax their own genitals as it's bloody tricky to DIY but leg waxing is easy to do for yourself.

This is not about body waxing it's about power, playing the victim, attention seeking and using the current work approach to laws of the land for media coverage.

How has it got to this point in Canada? I know Canadian GC feminists are looking to those in the UK with hope this madness gets overcome; but what happened specifically in Canada that has let this happen?

This relates to the JY suit (with additional material) discussed in this extensive thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3788755-Our-favourite-Canadian-is-at-it-again

midcenturylegs

I have really wondered this.

One reason is that a lot seemed to go under the radar in terms of the legislative stuff. It was accomplished and no one really even knew about it, and anyone who noticed at all assumed it was part of gay rights which was unquestionable.

The first many people heard of it to worry at all was C-16, and it was too quick to really get any momentum behind it. God bless Murphy and Peterson they were on before most people had even thought it through. In general though, universities are completely in thrall to identity politics.

A bit like the UK, all of the left political parties have supported it all, and there seems to have been very little internal controversy. I was a bit shocked the Green leader Elizabeth May did, she struck me as someone who might be GC, but nope.

The CBC has completely buried it all. Up until recently they were implicitly trusted, if not as unbiased, as being fair and honest in their reporting. Not many people realise the degree to which they have suppressed these things.

46midcenturylegs
"How has it got to this point in Canada? I know Canadian GC feminists are looking to those in the UK with hope this madness gets overcome; but what happened specifically in Canada that has let this happen?"

Canada is further down the woke hole than here.
Unrestrited Leftist progressivism with a large side order of identity politics.
Disagree with one thing out of twenty on their list and you are a nazi and kicked out of the intersectional tent.
I may be wrong but as bad as things are getting here I like to think a British Yaniv asking for her big hairy bollocks to be waxed would have brought about a lot more mockery than happened there.

Just bear in mind that 'suing' someone doesn't constitute endorsement from the courts any further than them agreeing that they've filled out the paperwork correctly. While it's onerous for the owners, they have received compensation in the past (the owners, not the claimant) and I believe the extent of vexatiousness currently required to receive a sanction is necessary to prevent miscarriages of justice.

How has it got to this point in Canada?

My theory is that Canada spends a great deal of time and effort defining itself as Not America. Better socially, more environmentally conscious, more inclusive. They are very invested in this. So this debate goes the same as many others, poorly.

By the way, this only goes so far. Women and First Nations still have a shit time and no one cares.

90+% of Canadians still have no idea any of this happened. There is no debate. The conservatives aren't talking about it, religious groups aren't talking about it, there's a total media cover up and blackout. Yaniv doesn't make the news, unless you get it off the internet. Murphy/Toronto library did make the news but it was framed entirely about free speech. Her beliefs weren't discussed. She won that one, which was just reported as a "victory for free speech."

Set

Oh that’s a worry. I take it you live there?

I may be wrong but as bad as things are getting here I like to think a British Yaniv asking for her big hairy bollocks to be waxed would have brought about a lot more mockery than happened there.

Yes he’s not the sort of Trans that the woke scolds will want to be associated with. Plus we have a big tradition of tabloid press-they’d definitely be all over the ball waxing story and white van man would say wot a load of old shit. Further to that it is claimed he targets Asians and they’re the largest minority in the UK and I would like to think there would be an outcry?

By the way, this only goes so far. Women and First Nations still have a shit time and no one cares.

But these are still treated weirdly by the progressives. Like Trudeau's gender parity cabinet, or declarations of being on unceaded lands all over the place. The CBC (sorry to harp on about them but they really are the public voice of this perspective) loves nothing more than to talk about identity politics issues including women and First Nations people.

I don't think actually addressing real problems is ever what identity politics are about.

Goosefoot “ I don't think actually addressing real problems is ever what identity politics are about.”

Here in the UK I feel as if someone made up identity politics with the actual goal as being to detract from real problems.

I think the goal, inasmuch as there is one, is to be "anti-racist" etc in a way that doesn't endanger the economic status quo.

It's also substantially a kind of nationalism, just not focused on an actual nation. Rather like the black nationalists in the US civil rights movement.

Set similar has happened in Australia with the introduction of self-ID at state legislation level. No or not much consultation. I think it got through in a couple of States but no one I know there knows anything about it there. Was dropped by one State. So there is some traction but Australia has other fish to fry right now obvs (excuse the terrible pun).

You've probably seen this article but it did explain some of the tactics employed by the TRAs in getting policy through - it is worth a read blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/12/the-document-that-reveals-the-remarkable-tactics-of-trans-lobbyists/

mid good that one state dropped it. I should try to find out how that happened.

I thought JY was facing charges of illegal possession of weapons after brandishing a taser at Blair White on a livestream.

Silly goose.

I thought JY was facing charges of illegal possession of weapons

Sentencing is next week.

How does Yaniv fund these cases?

He doesn't: they're free to bring before the BCHRT.

Oh no! So how do they stop repeat vexatious complaints?

Autumn sadly it looks like I was wrong..

On the JV case, read today that other TRAs (MO) have had a chat with JV and told her whilst they agree that she has a right to being waxed etc JV is not helping their case. Will try to find the source of this,.

"Her"? Him.