Gender identity in email signatures

[Butchyrestingface]

And no, I don’t mean gender pronouns such as she/he/them/ze, etc.

I have started receiving emails from certain companies (I occasionally work in the Arts) with things like (cis; he/they) included in the signature.

As much as I think the whole thing is a load of bollocks, I can understand why some people would want to define their gender pronouns in social/professional settings. But why include ‘cis/trans’ in the email signature? Why does someone you have professional contact with (in a situation that doesn’t involve protection of vulnerable groups) need to know that?

What am I missing?

I have only seen this once - about 2 weeks ago actually. I just thought the same... why do I need to know this especially as its blatantly obvious you are a "cis" "straight" "man"...

They don't need to know that. What is the world coming to? It really has taken a very firm hold, this ideology

Why does it bother you? Some people like to share this info. Nobody is making you do it.

I am guessing the company / team might have had issues with clients being surprised by a colleague’s gender which is why everybody does it. At my company it was a Sandy that prompted the team to do this for a while — after an Indian client assumed he was a she and offered him a job (which he accepted) in a women’s only nightshift IT team.

It not appropriate, any more than it would be appropriate to create a culture where people are forced to declare if they are gay.

I thankfully have not had the misfortune to have seen this.

If I did, I would scoff, laugh out loud, think WTF, think the person emailing me isn't very intelligent, the company/organisation they represent would go down in my estimations.

If I saw this from any company/oganisation I didn't know, approaching me for business, they'd be an instant reject.

I am not playing this game of insanity.

It's like that joke -
Q: How do you know if someone's non-binary?
A: Because they'll tell you...

A second degree connection on LinkedIn has added his pronouns to his name.

So it reads "Mark Smith (he/his)" if he comes up in my feed or you search him, it's not just included as part of his bio/profile.

It makes me think he is a woke-signalling tit.

Why does it bother you? Some people like to share this info. Nobody is making you do it.

Because I think it’s totally unnecessary and if anything, could possibly lead to an assumption that anyone working for that company who doesn’t include “cis” in their email signature is therefore trans.

And that would presumably include transpeople who may not be out.

I am guessing the company / team might have had issues with clients being surprised by a colleague’s gender which is why everybody does it.

It’s a very small company, and they’re all “cis”.

I feel like emailing back to say I was triggered by the transphobic qualifiers in “their” email signature. 😈

I agree this is analogous to making everyone write that they are gay/straight/lesbian/bisexual in their signature.
Or making everyone write details of their hidden disability or their religion.

If this becomes a thing, let's all write random words taken from the dictionary which we identify as.

Regards,

Devereux1
Prime Minister
Combine harvester/television set/Pluto

What is professional about a declaration of sexual preference in a work email?

I’m freelance so mine would be

Butchy Resting-Face
[insert job title]
Pronouns: PAY ME PROMPTLY, YOU TIGHT CUNTS

I'll change my sign off on emails to Stonewall, Jo Swinson and Angela Rayner

Regards,

Devereux1
Director of Sanity & Science
XX chromosones / real woman / yes, there is such a thing as men and women Jo / go back to school instead of the House of Lords and learn about science you utter, utter tool

Please tell me Jo Swansong is not taking ermine?

I'm pretty sure a trans man or woman would not like to have to include "trans" as part of their email signature either.

Yep, they're talking about this women don't exist / it's all about being fair but not to women joining the Lords.

Baroness Imbecile, or something like that I believe.

What unspeakable BS if Swansong goes to House of Lords🤮

It's no one else's bloody business, and in any case, who cares? It's not generally relevant to the way people do their job: any more than signing off emails gay, bi or straight.

There is something very individualistic and egotistical about this whole gender identity parade. You do you. I don't suspect anyone else is particularly interested unless it results in a direct infringement of their own rights.

If other people want to sign their emails off in this ludicrous way, that's a decision for them (and yes, I judge them for it). When I start making a song and dance about it is when someone starts trying to make me do the same. (Plot spoiler: I won't).

BTW, 'Jo Swansong' really made me laugh!

Surely this just adds an extra layer of potential confusion? I can actually understand the logic behind including gender pronouns, ever though I don't think it's appropriate to require people to sum up their relationship with "gender" - which may be incredibly personal - in their email sig... But if you saw one saying "Sam - trans/she/her" a lot of people would be trying to work out their natal sex and some might even assume they are a trans man about to transition (as there is a lot of public confusion about this). Why include more potential for head-scratching? Putting trans/cis strikes me as TMI and quite idiotic tbh.

There is something very individualistic and egotistical about this whole gender identity parade. You do you

It is narcissistic BS and I can’t help feeling it’s an attempt to compensate for profound mediocrity.

Jo Swansong made me laugh

But if TWAW then surely we are all one homogenous group and there is no such thing as trans or cis?

GrandmaMazur
Pronouns: Confused / The world has gone bloody mad

If this becomes a thing, let's all write random words taken from the dictionary which we identify as.

What an excellent idea.

Yours

Arnold
Biological Realitiest
Peelly-wally
Thou/thee/thy/thine/nominative plural ye and correct verb ending required

It not appropriate, any more than it would be appropriate to create a culture where people are forced to declare if they are gay

This.

At my company it was a Sandy that prompted the team to do this for a while — after an Indian client assumed he was a she and offered him a job (which he accepted) in a women’s only nightshift IT team

Well i’d say that is because they didn’t do their due diligence- no interview? I’ve had to submit my birth cert or some verification of identity for every job I have had.

Especially if it’s a position where sex discrimination law doesn’t apply.