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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Gender GP Christmas message

44 replies

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 16/12/2019 19:33

www.gendergp.com/christmas-message-from-dr-webberley

Some highlights (for context Webberley is having a meal with a transwoman)

She showed me photos of her a few years ago. She was then sporting an impressive, thick wiry beard, and bushy eyebrows. But when I looked at the woman sitting beside me, I saw soft fine skin and prettily shaped brows, with highlighted cheek bones and manicured fingernails. I had no doubt that she was a woman.

I know what an amazing wife she has the potential to be – funny, caring, interesting

Nope. No gender stereotypes to see here...

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T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 16/12/2019 19:37

I’m sure if I had my menopausal hair removed from my chin, my brows done, grew my hair/wore a wig, put on a fuckton of makeup, etc and dressed in a stereotypical female way, I’d look soft and feminine too. I don’t do those things, but still look like a woman. It means absolutely nothing.

CuckooCuckooClock · 16/12/2019 19:45

Ffs.
I’ve got bushy eyebrows and, despite my best efforts, can grow a beard.
I’ve also got a vag through which I have birthed 2 children. Is that woman enough or would my womanlyness be doubted because my nails aren’t manicured?

RedLemon · 16/12/2019 19:45

Oooh hang on now Gender GP. This person’s sexuality didn’t change though, did it? Initially this person was a man married to women (I’m assuming he (as was) was married to women as gay marriage would not have been legal long enough to allow him (as was) two such marriages). And now she is a woman who is attracted to men.

So still heterosexual then, riiiiiight?

AnyOldPrion · 16/12/2019 19:50

Consider the cockles of my heart duly warmed. What a lovely Christmas story!

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 16/12/2019 19:58

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Michelleoftheresistance · 16/12/2019 20:08

Oh fgs.

If I have lunch with Webberly in a Cats costume, with a tail and feline claws, will she have no doubt I am a cat?

I'm sure the person she was eating with is lovely, but they are a TW, this is ok to say, and they are male. TW are biologically male. Woman isn't a title you earn when you get the costume right. And women who don't do any make up at all or bother with femininity are still women. This is really offensive to women.

ThePurported · 16/12/2019 20:11

But when I looked at the woman sitting beside me, I saw soft fine skin and prettily shaped brows, with highlighted cheek bones and manicured fingernails. I had no doubt that she was a woman.

I know what an amazing wife she has the potential to be – funny, caring, interesting

Aw. How's the weather in Stepford, Helen?

There's also a podcast with Meg-John Barker of the BACP guidelines / "Northern women are aggressive" fame.

HandsOffMyRights · 16/12/2019 20:15

She was then sporting an impressive, thick wiry beard, and bushy eyebrows.

It's Sandy Claws!

T0tallyFuckedUpFamily · 16/12/2019 20:26

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TirisfalPumpkin · 16/12/2019 21:09

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WrathofFaeKlop · 16/12/2019 22:35

Nothing a couple of months wild camping wouldn't solve.
The manliness will shine through in no time.

YellaHumberElla · 16/12/2019 22:54

Good god. It’s like a description from a 1950,s advert for hand cream or something.

I just need to mentally photoshop in a hostess trolley and a bottle of Valium and the image is complete!

madcatladyforever · 16/12/2019 22:59

How insulting to women.

GiloulovesLaure · 16/12/2019 23:07

Dear me, if anyone spoke about me in that patronising tone, I’d be a bit cross.

JellySlice · 16/12/2019 23:07

I used to have thick, bushy eyebrows, until the alopecia that took them also took my hair-line.

If thick, bushy eyebrows = man, and no thick, bushy eye-brows = woman, then I must have been a man who transitioned to - what? Doesn't receding hair-line also = man? Confused

But when I looked at the woman sitting beside me, I saw soft fine skin and prettily shaped brows, with highlighted cheek bones and manicured fingernails. I had no doubt that she was a woman.

So if Webberly sat beside me, and saw my total lack of prettily shaped brows, my un-highlighted cheek bones and snaggly, un-manicured fingernails, she would clearly have no doubt that I was a man.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 16/12/2019 23:17

But when I looked at the woman sitting beside me, I saw soft fine skin and prettily shaped brows, with highlighted cheek bones and manicured fingernails. I had no doubt that she was a woman.

But when I look at the woman I am, I see tanned, menopausal skin, bushy brows, no makeup and fingernails still caked with the horse feed I was mixing. I have no doubt that I am a woman. And while I’m funny, caring and interesting, my potential to be an amazing wife is zilch.

Mind you, my thoughts have always tended towards what change I can make in the world and how productive and useful I could be, rather than
The fineness of my brows. Not very wifely material I know.

Also TirisfailPumpkin 🏆

ChattyLion · 16/12/2019 23:52

I want to write something really very unChristmassy here so I better not. Sad

lydiamajora · 17/12/2019 02:35

We are so often told that gender stereotypes are not the basis for transgender identity, and yet we have this absolute avalanche of human interest pieces that cite exactly those stereotypes as either the basis of or proof of trans identity. PICK ONE.

ChattyLion · 17/12/2019 07:18

I’m just glad that only adults are involved here in this very superficial conception of what makes people ‘themselves’.

BadgertheBodger · 17/12/2019 07:22

I genuinely wish Helen Webberley would be sent to prison. I can’t understand how you can illegally prescribe hormones for a child, have your licence revoked and still continue to waft around on social media and post this complete bollocks. I mean, it sounds more like she’s advertising a rescue dog than a human. “Would make a wonderful wife?” Fuck off Helen.

Dolorabelle · 17/12/2019 07:36

But when I looked at the woman sitting beside me, I saw soft fine skin and prettily shaped brows, with highlighted cheek bones and manicured fingernails. I had no doubt that she was a woman

Oh crikey, guess I'm not a woman then - even though I have a uterus ...

testing987654321 · 17/12/2019 07:38

Surely everyone knows the mistress is funny, caring and interesting. The wife is a boring, prudish nag. Transition not quite successful yet.

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 17/12/2019 10:20

It's almost like an advert. You know, if Helen had a product that she was selling for cold hard cash. And she was targeting vulnerable young people and painting a picture of what life would be like if they bought that product from her. A completely unrealistic picture but one that those people yearned for.

But I'm sure she was just touched by this person and their 'journey' and the time of year. It's probably not a cynical marketing ploy at all.

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 17/12/2019 10:24

And women who don't do any make up at all or bother with femininity are still women. This is really offensive to women.

THIS. Sexist bollocks.

littlbrowndog · 17/12/2019 10:29

Soft fine skin prettily shaped eyebrows. All the lols ever ever ever 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣