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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Good luck Harry The Owl

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BoreOfWhabylon · 20/11/2019 08:45

Court case today.

twitter.com/WeAreFairCop

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Kit19 · 20/11/2019 13:40

god I wish I was there! You can sense the judge's incredulity growing and growing

popehilarious · 20/11/2019 13:41

They said the difference between HC and HI was much debated even within people working in this area.

They tried to use ‘incident’ to describe something such as not letting someone access a service (which to confuse things further can also be discrimination under the EA). The aim was to ensure that people are comfortable to report all such matters, and the word ‘crime’ may put someone off, as they may not perceive what they have experienced as a crime so may not report it.

There were other interesting points about the groups of people covered in the definitions but I don't want to risk outing my old locality too much... I'll just say it's interesting comparing different councils' text on this.

popehilarious · 20/11/2019 13:41

^ relates to my previous post about a council, not the current Judicial Review!

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 20/11/2019 13:43

That statement is excellent - takes much of the rubbish that is spouted and counters it head on. So very articulate.

Datun · 20/11/2019 13:44

There also needs to be a definition of transgender. Not 'anyone who says they are'.

It's perfectly normal to not want a fetishist, who wants women to be unwitting participants, in your changing room and for it to produce 'fear or dislike'.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 20/11/2019 13:47

riveted again

very much identifying as a productive member of staff this week

BarbaraStrozzi · 20/11/2019 13:49

Kathleen's witness statement is brilliant - great to see proper analytical philosophy at its best, rather than post modernist obfuscation.

ThePurported · 20/11/2019 13:53

Someone asked upthread
is there a court case or group pushing to make misogyny a hate crime?

There was a campaign earlier this year. The police said they were against it because they are so stretched. Which makes it all the more baffling that PoC and some local forces are so keen on recording 'hate' when someone tweets a limerick or a sardonic "Huh".

ScrimshawTheSecond · 20/11/2019 13:53

Wish I'd been there to see this, if nothing else ...

twitter.com/WeAreFairCop/status/1197149318349774854

Good luck Harry The Owl
tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 20/11/2019 13:53

I would love to learn it word for word for real life conversations so I can just stop peoples nonsense in its tracks.

Waterl00 · 20/11/2019 13:53

Funny tweet.

twitter.com/WeAreFairCop/status/1197149318349774854

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 20/11/2019 13:55

The statement that is, not that tweet. Which is hilarious, please say someone caught it on camera to post?!

RoyalCorgi · 20/11/2019 14:10

Loved Kathleen Stock's witness statement. So clear and cool.

Let's hope sanity prevails.

midcenturylegs · 20/11/2019 14:12

I loved the statement too. I am going to try to summarise and learn word for word too! Brilliant work Kathleen.

midcenturylegs · 20/11/2019 14:19

Are they taking a break for lunch? I can't seem to find later updates from an hour ago?

Manderleyagain · 20/11/2019 14:23

They did break for lunch but are back tweeting in the last few minutes.

Destinysdaughter · 20/11/2019 14:23

Love this picture from outside the court!

Good luck Harry The Owl
CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 20/11/2019 14:23

Someone set of the fire alarm in the adjoining room, so the Judge decided it was a good time to stop for lunch as the PA system was asking that room to evacuate and you couldn't hear anything.

They are back now.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 20/11/2019 14:31

Isn't it absurd that the complainant hadn't even seen the fucking tweets, yet these supposed hate incidents get put on someone's record without any investigation or right to defend.

ThePurported · 20/11/2019 14:31

The banners are brilliant, well done FC.

Datun · 20/11/2019 14:34

Why is the complainant anonymous?

Pthagonal · 20/11/2019 14:34

Please tell me that there will be a transcript available of these proceedings, I would love to read it!

Sexnotgender · 20/11/2019 14:40

Those banners are excellent!!

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 20/11/2019 14:44

Defendant's counsel up now.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 20/11/2019 14:44

There's a thread-reader unroll thing here:

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