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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Green Party manifesto and women/parents

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Sunkisses · 19/11/2019 11:10

The Green Party manifesto has been launched this morning.

www.greenparty.org.uk/assets/files/Elections/Green%20Party%20Manifesto%202019.pdf

Not much of surprise in it. They don't use the word 'sex' (but use 'gender' instead), nor 'sexism'. I'll list the main points (in no particular order)

  • Remove the spousal veto (they mean spousal consent) in the GRA so that trans widows remain trapped in marriages.

  • Change the law so an X gender marker can be added to passports for non-binary and intersex people

  • Update the Gender Recognition Act to allow trans youth and non-binary people to get legal recognition through self-declaration. (only 'trans youth' and 'non-binary' people? no one else?)

  • Support employers to explore the benefits of offering menstruation and menopausal leave to workers

  • Improve access to high quality care during pregnancy and ensure that all women are entitled to the care of a single midwife through prenatal care, birth and the first month of post-natal care

  • Baby clinics expanded
  • Make misogyny a hate crime across the UK and increase the police’s capacity to deal with domestic violence and misogynistic hate crimes. (I don't think the GP realise that misogyny refers to FEMALES, not males)
  • Funding to support the prevention and prosecution of all hate crimes will be increased
  • police officers will be given further training in this area
  • need an intersectional approach to hate crime, which recognises the groups of women who are most at risk
  • Develop and implement a UK-wide strategy to tackle gender-based violence, including domestic violence, rape and sexual abuse, Female Genital Mutilation (FGM), and trafficking: -working with perpetrators to prevent them from continuing to abuse
  • reverse cuts to legal aid to prevent survivors being forced to represent themselves against their abusers in court
  • introduce a new Domestic Abuse Bill, which enables prosecution of economic abuse
  • Roll back the cuts to domestic violence support centres and women’s refuges, and increase funding to provide more safe and secure accommodation for women and their children
  • Put funding for Rape Crisis Centre services on a sustainable footing
  • increase and ring fence the Rape Support Fund and ensure funds are provided via the Victim Surcharge
  • Extend the EU’s Charter of Fundamental Rights to give women in all EU countries access to legal, safe and affordable abortion services

  • Establish a new press regulatory regime which will allow women to make formal complaints about media coverage that will encourage misogyny against women

  • allow for third party complaints to be made, on behalf of women negatively affected
  • Introduce a regulatory framework for online harms to ensure social media companies take responsibility for how their platforms are being used and invest in technological solutions to address misogyny and online harassment. (this sounds like the GP want to force platforms to censor anyone who criticises gender identity ideology which they will class as 'harassment')

  • Increase funding for areas of the NHS heavily relied on by Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans, Intersex, Queer and Asexual (LGBTIQA+) people, including trans healthcare, gender identity clinics, HIV treatment and mental health provision. (they don't make it clear why these people's health needs are more important than other people's)

  • Properly fund training to support the delivery of comprehensive, age- appropriate Personal Health and Sexual Education (PHSE) lessons in schools covering all aspects of sex and relationships, with a focus on consent

  • End the opt-out of LGBTIQA+ inclusive PHSE classes at school to ensure that every child learns about different types of couples and families that make up UK society. (because parents should have no rights over their kids....)

  • Train school staff in spotting and stopping sexual harassment and bullying

  • Fund schools to provide free eco- friendly sanitary products to pupils

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BovaryX · 19/11/2019 11:40

How will misogyny be prosecuted as a hate crime if the definition of ‘woman’ is no longer an exclusive category?

GeordieTerf · 19/11/2019 11:43

Half of that sounds brilliant Smile

The other half Shock

Sunkisses · 19/11/2019 11:45

@BovaryX, yes. And I don't think the GP's Amelia Womack realises that misogyny literally means female-hating. The 'gyny' part refers to our female bits! How exclusionary of the Green Party!

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BovaryX · 19/11/2019 11:55

And I don't think the GP's Amelia Womack realises that misogyny literally means female-hating. The 'gyny' part refers to our female bits! How exclusionary of the Green Party

I bet she doesn’t. Shouldn’t think that etymology has occurred to her. Shouldn’t think irony is in her lexicon either..,,

FloralBunting · 19/11/2019 12:28

I read the manifesto. I liked so much of it. I'm so frustrated.

AbsintheFriends · 19/11/2019 13:13

need an intersectional approach to hate crime, which recognises the groups of women who are most at risk

Oooh - I know which groups of 'women' will win the most at risk prize!

Sunkisses · 19/11/2019 14:10

I compared this 2019 manifesto against the 2017 and 2015 manifestos. Support for self-ID is a new addition. It was not in the previous manifestos. Neither was removing the ability of women to say 'no', they do not want their marriages redefined so that they are suddenly married to a 'woman'. This is new. So is the X in passports for 'non-binary' people. They've added a load more TRA stuff. The menstruation and menopause leave stuff is also new. In fact almost all of it new, except for the stuff about making misogyny a hate crime, and 'gender-based violence' (although they used to call it 'violence against women')

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SirVixofVixHall · 19/11/2019 14:10

When people say FGM is A VERY BAD THING , but transing children A VERY GOOD THING , I assume they are either racists or lacking in brain.

Witchothewoods · 19/11/2019 14:55

I'm appalled by what has come out - some of what is in this manifesto is not actual conference approved policy, I know, I'm a member, in there still fighting this schiess :-(

SirVixofVixHall · 19/11/2019 14:59

I would love to vote Green. The planet is being treated as one massive commodity, and yet here are the main party against that making themselves unelectable.

Antibles · 19/11/2019 15:09

women in all EU countries access to legal, safe and affordable abortion services They must have forgotten to put this through their translator as surely transmen might need this service too Hmm.

I note that the acronym of FGM hasn't been put through the 'trans'lator yet. It will be the ultimate betrayal and appropriation of female oppression by the trans lobby if and when it does.

Obviously I support all moves that make life better for women but fgs if they haven't even got the intellectual integrity to say woman = adult human female they can sod off.

BlackberryGin · 19/11/2019 20:29

The Green Party is unelectable due to the take-over by the trans-lobbyists. Three of the four leaders are rabid transactivists and don't give a shiny shit about women.

I'd love to vote green and have been the Eco Officer in my last two posts at work, but would no more consider voting for them than I would for the Nazi Party.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 19/11/2019 20:48

'The Green Party is unelectable due to the take-over by the trans-lobbyists. Three of the four leaders are rabid transactivists and don't give a shiny shit about women.'

THIS.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 19/11/2019 21:08

I note that the acronym of FGM hasn't been put through the 'trans'lator yet. It will be the ultimate betrayal and appropriation of female oppression by the trans lobby if and when it does.

Yes well... twitter.com/radfemjana/status/1026524215762145280?s=21

OhHolyJesus · 19/11/2019 21:18

What BlackBerry said and I am an active member.

I'm ashamed and yet empowered. It's a very pull-me-push-me feeling.

Gertrudesgarden · 19/11/2019 21:26

So they're going to stop sexual harassment by forcing women (the vagina possessing kind) to share changing rooms, prison cells, showers in gyms, etc, with peen possessors.

Dandy.

I'm completely convinced.

letterem · 19/11/2019 23:09

"Establish a new press regulatory regime which will allow women to make formal complaints about media coverage that will encourage misogyny against women"
I guess this "misogyny" will include anything that hints that trans women are not women. Another way of shutting down any discussion

ScrimshawTheSecond · 19/11/2019 23:10

The Green Party is unelectable due to the take-over by the trans-lobbyists

louiseaaa · 20/11/2019 08:12

Arrgghh

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 20/11/2019 08:15

* Improve access to high quality care during pregnancy and ensure that all women are entitled to the care of a single midwife through prenatal care, birth and the first month of post-natal care

Wait, did they actually call us women this time rather than non-men or, I dunno, ungendered birthing units?

PurpleHoodie · 20/11/2019 08:24

"Anti-FGM", but also Pro-transing children -
which includes physical mutilation of a childs sexual organs and destruction other parts of their body)?

Aye. A racist party to boot.

SirVixofVixHall · 20/11/2019 09:26

The “We are anti breast ironing but pro breast binding” brigade.

PurpleHoodie · 20/11/2019 09:36

Exactly that SirVix

I'd suggest Green members who are concerned about environmental issues should break from the Greens similar to AllianceLGB from Stonewall.

MrsSnippyPants · 20/11/2019 14:45

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Catmaiden · 20/11/2019 19:26

Longstanding Green here. Best chance to oust Tory mp in my very true blue area, is the Greens. Green candidates are friends.
I can't bring myself to vote for the Greens.
I'm so conflicted. And very upset.

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