Do you think "International Men's Day" is insulting to women's rights?

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It's today apparently.

Isn't it like having a "White person's day"?

I think it's good. Raise issues that effect men, like toxic masculinity.

Lol grimbles
Its almost as if us feminazis love our sons, fathers, brothers, friends, lovers. It's almost as if we want a better world for both sexes.

Reputation ruined

Don't worry, Penis News will be around soon to quote us out of context and stir up some hate....

I suppose it is awful of us to recognise the impact of sexist stereotypes on men as well as women and to recognise that physiological differences between the sexes mean men have some issues that simply don't effect women at all such as prostate or testicular cancers.

I'm being flamed on twitter for replying to the Good Morning Britain tweet for saying everyday is international men's day.

All by men of course, and my subsequent replies are falling on tough ground!

I do get it. Men's suicide, depression, loneliness, homelessness, specific cancers, likelihood of dying earlier than women etc are all worth highlighting too.

Actually craving as radfem as I am, I would have pulled you up on your suicide point too. I absolutely agree that better mental health support is required across the board, but you've basically done the same whataboutery in reverse that is so infuriating when men do it to women about e.g. rape or DV. Suicide is an issue that has a much greater impact amongst men than women - three times as many men complete suicide as women, and while suicide numbers are generally falling they are still increasing amongst men aged 45-49. A lot of that will have to do with factors such as toxic masculinity and stereotypical gender-based expectations (one of my friends lost her husband to suicide recently when he felt, for various reasons I won't go into, that he could no longer 'look after her' - regardless of the fact she didn't need him to look after her, he'd absorbed the message that that's what men have to do) and homelessness among ex-servicemen in particular.

I think it's generally A Good Thing, though not sure how much impact any of these 'days' really has.

I'm glad it exists.

If only to shut people up, when they predictably ask (on IWD), 'when is IMD?'

You have some utterly vile views OP.

Your disgusting circumcision comment has been reported.

How are we meant to celebrate International Men's Day?

Well, my employer abolished the Women’s Network in favour of a newly named “Gender Balance Network”. Without a trace of irony, it’s being launched to staff today.

I actually think that IWD can be insulting to women.

Let me explain. A friend of mine is from Eastern Europe and she told me that in her country and some others, IWD is a day where men are expected to do the housework and buy women flowers. To me, that just reinforces the stereotype that housework is women’s responsibility.

It’s rather like the tradition that women can propose on 29 February reinforces the idea that proposing is for men. The exception proves the rule.

That said, I’m happy for there to be an IWD when it’s used to highlight issues affecting women and I’m happy there’s an IMD to highlight issues affecting men.

I think it's generally A Good Thing, though not sure how much impact any of these 'days' really has

Yup

I do think an international men's day is a good idea. Or, at least, it's no worse than all the other days that come thick and fast over the year.

men has right to have own his day

I rather suspect the OP started this thread because she wanted all the rabid radfems to start frothing about how awful it is that there's an IMD and provide evidence that we are all Hairy-Legged Man-Hating Wimmin. When it didn't go that way, she made an inflammatory statement about male circumcision in the hope that we would all agree, but that doesn't seem to be working out for her either.

Regarding the actual topic at hand, I don't really care one way or another, but then I don't particularly care about IWD either. I would prefer it if we could expect equity of treatment all year round, not just on selected special occasions. One thing I would wager, though, is that all the annoying whiny MRAs who go "But when is there a day for meeeenn?" on IWD won't be doing anything special to mark the occasion today. They don't actually want a men's day, they just want there to not be a women's day.

Your post is ridiculous OP but your comment about circumsions is appalling. Did you think that because this is the feminist board everyone would join in with your ludicrous opinions about something that many men struggle with for their whole lives?

Oh and your talking shite too.

Male circumcision has been around for hundreds, maybe a thousand years and used to only be performed for the Jewish. I don't agree that circumcision should be banished, as today the practise is free to ponder on for men.

The manhood of a male is quite useful, as it does stop rashes infecting the area, and protecting the glans penis (where you pee from) clean. Circumcision is nothing more than a sex modifier and has no other uses.

Long story short; leave the decision making of circumcision to us males. We know what we're doing

Who cares, international men's day, international flower pots day, international stand on your head on the 3rd Tuesday of the month day.

I love it when posters attempt a kind of reverse sexism gotcha. It will always fail. Because most women and feminists have men and boys in their life who they love dearly and they do that despite knowing the statistics around male violence, despite walking with their keys in their hand when out in the dark, despite keeping a hand over their drink when out in a bar, despite a masculine political landscape that frequently dumps on them from above.

I mean, if women can deal with this level of cognitive dissonance day in and day out, they're hardly going to start falling apart over an International Men's Day.

They don't actually want a men's day, they just want there to not be a women's day.

In a nutshell.

I'd like to thank the OP. I have wished men at work a happy IMD this afternoon and it made some of them very happy

you've vicariously made some men very happy OP.

Men might not face lower wages and opportunities, fear of domestic violence, ingrained sexism, etc. that women do, but they do have issues which disproportionately affect them.
Having a focus for discussion of suicide, loneliness, toxic masculinity, etc. is a great idea, and it doesn't affect us at all.
Unlike women's issues, theirs aren't generally caused by the opposite sex, though.

Often, on here, we tell men "if you are so concerned about a men's issue, go organise your own day/event", and that's exactly what they've done here, so good for them.

And that heartless twitter comment above is identical to those comments about domestic violence against women, where people pipe up with "but men suffer from DV too".

Does anyone actually care? No one I know even mentions international men day.

Isn't it international men day, everyday anyway.