DCC Julie 'Pronouns' Cooke is telling all police forces to update their search policies. Bristol Police want to lead the way!

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Interview with Bristol/Avon officer Helen Riddle. DCC Julie Cooke ( remember her from International Pronouns Day?
twitter.com/dccjuliecooke/status/1184397495423655936?lang=en ) has written to every force in the country telling them to update their search policies.
Riddle (Bristol) says basing search policies on biological sex is outdated and her force will lead the way in doing it by gender instead.

I don't think there's a female human alive who wouldn't be both humiliated and terrified of being raped in that scenario, regardless of how they "identify". Anyone (like DCC Cooke) who'd willingly and indeed enthusiastically impose that on people is a terrible person.

Decent male officers wouldn't want to search a female body.

I'm hoping that decent male officers when faced with their female colleagues being forced, against their will, to perform searches on a TW, might suddenly discover their inner Pips Bunce and identify as Sheila.

It’s all so much shite

What is that person doing.

Fuck sake

Why don’t Cooke just go and catch criminals

@YeOldeNameChange your insight and experience is so valuable, thank you!

What do you think of this: twitter.com/NYorksPolicePSD/status/1181142652890308609

Interestingly the arrested person doesn't say what answers they gave to those questions. My guess is the arrested person asked to be searched by a FEMALE.

...meeting a transwoman who wanted to become a customs officer so they could spend all day "sticking their finger in women's cunts".

Customs officers have the same oversight regime as the police (the IOPC)

Sadly I can believe it. I've seen similar stuff written online. It seems everyone has forgotten that there are sadly a significant number of males around who like to abuse women.

(You've used a banned term in your post, so I've replaced it with a MN approved term )

This whole thing is awful and unbearable - our police forces are being trained by political lobbyists, it's completely unacceptable.

If PACE has biological biological sex written into the procedures, how can Julie Cooke just write to all police forces and tell them to ignore this, and go by gender identity instead? Can she even do this? I mean obvs she can - she has! But is it in her remit?

But there are so many different genders. What is the chance of a police officer being available with the appropriate identity?

I don't imagine there are many astralgender police officers to search someone if that is how the suspect identifies.

Police can have their own force policies on certain things. Presumably she’s trying to influence this. She can’t amend PACE. That would have to go through Parliament. I would imagine you could in theory be disciplined for breaching a force policy but it would be an interesting employment tribunal for a female officer dismissed for refusing to strip search a male.

This is what PACE says

NB I draw your attention to the difference between SHOULD (Obligation) and MUST (an order)

People with a GRC must be treated as that sex

People must not be asked about a GRC

Everything thereafter, pertaining to searches, is SHOULD. Dignity of the officers is mentioned.

Again, what is the point of a GRC if you can’t ask about it? How do you know which sex someone should be treated as if you can’t ask?

How do you ‘live predominantly as a woman’?

Now I’m taking over the thread but hopefully this information is useful and anyway none of it is a secret

The other important issue as stated is the female detainee potentially being searched by a male officer (let’s call him officer B) who identifies as female in such a way as to be protected under the EA characteristic of gender reassignment. We all know what that means here ie not what most people think it does.

PACE doesn’t consider the gender identity of the searching officers so that may be a matter for force policy, not PACE. PACE only concerns itself with the gender identity of the detainee and the SEX of the Officer.

Interesting isn’t it that officers only have a sex but everyone else may have a gender identity.

Bear in mind too that many female detainees would not feel confident in challenging this. Many are drunk or on drugs. Most are vulnerable.

Let’s say a strip search is required and you have one female officer and the only other officer is officer B. What of the female officer who speaks up for the detainee and refuses to conduct the search with officer B present? What do the force do?

This would be an interesting FOI request I think, to ask their force policy on transgender officers and in-custody searching.

Also the comment “I didn’t think it was okay to say queer, isn’t that offensive?”

There are still people to whom that term will be very offensive. Wonder whether that is made clear, or whether older people’s rights are to be swept away on the grounds that “all progress must be good”.

She gets the Equality Act wrong and states it would be progressive if a bearded man with a penis would be searched by a woman if he says he identifies as one at that specific moment. But then when the interviewer asks 'what if a gay man doesn't want a man searching them?' it's almost dismissed as if that would be irrelevant. They're making it up as they go along

Who is giving this person a voice - and is anyone listening? They sound rather ‘obsessed’. Haven’t they got proper police work to do?

This is bat shite.

Yeah she gets it wrong a lot. She talks about gender a lot when she should say sex - she’s obviously indoctrinated into the Gender religion
Basically they’re pushing for the right of a male officer to search a female. A woman pushing for this.
Found this article: www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.pinknews.co.uk/2012/07/23/new-search-rules-for-trans-police-officers-and-suspects-drawn-up/amp/

What a disgusting agenda

This really needs exposing. A male-bodied officer’s right to search a female would also include to search a person of under 18 in police custody, not just an adult. Let that sink in. That is what is being pushed here.

Can one refuse to be searched by a particular officer?

Does this really, honestly mean that if a male officer identifies as female, he will be entitled to forcibly search a female suspect? Someone tell me I'm misunderstanding, please?

I’m not sure but that pink news article seems to be celebrating the fact that trans officers are now allowed to do what is effectively opposite sex searching

New guidelines on the searching of suspects made it clear that there should no longer be any obstacle to trans officers carrying out intimate and body searches of suspects of the appropriate gender

By Jane Fae🤔

So celebrating opposite sex intimidate searches. No agenda whatsoever nothing to see here

Intimate not intimidate

there should no longer be any obstacle to trans officers carrying out intimate and body searches of suspects of the appropriate gender

Appropriate for whom???

Intimate not intimidate

Kinda both, though.

That’s what I thought Scrimshaw. Autocorrect gets it. The police do not

Appropriate for whom???

Men