Sally Hines - criticised for tweets

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About time someone took her to task over her awful behaviour.

"Hines denies the allegations. Since The Tab Sheffield approached her for comment she has deleted at least 18 tweets and changed her account from public to private."

She is attacking Ewan Somerville rather than engaging with his arguments

That's because TRAs can't engage with the arguments. They rely on emotion and personal attacks appeals as their "arguments" don't stand up to any sort of scrutiny.

Dairy of a prof of all the Bantz and also the Feelz. Aged 53 3/4
Dear dear darling dairy
There were five green bottles sitting on a wall
Five green bottles sitting on a wall
And if one of those bottles should accidentally fall
It wouldn't matter cos THEIR ALL EMPTY

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👌

Hic

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Urgh

Dear diary dairy

LITERALLY LITERALLY WHEN WILL THEY LEARN. I literally, actually literally DISPAIR:

1. I'm a professor of BANTZ, anything and everything I say on social media is BANTER your stupid and offensive and stuff to even think otherwise. STUUUUUUUUUUIIPID.
2. I'm a professor of FEELZ and I know that homosexuality IS FOR BOOOOOOOOOOMERS. STUUUUUUUPID boomers, everyone knows that no one says they are anything but queer now. Christ single sex attraction is so last century. I know this because I've studied feelings.
3. I'm disgusterated by the attempts to LITERALLY persecute me by some idiot student arsehole, quoting me. ACTUALLY QUOTING ME rather than concentrating on Hong Kong, like normal student journalists. When will they learn they're place. Eh?

Bet there a BOOOOOOMER. YEAH.

1. I'm a PROFESSOR OF FEELZ and if I FEEL like social media is BANTZ between mates.... THEN IT BLOODY IS. Cos I'm also the prof of BANTZ. SCREW YOU ALL.
2. Hic
3. Sniff
4. Hic
5. Wail

Zzzzzz

To be repeated.

AGAIN

Mmm, I don't think there is anything wrong with making their bias explicit. We all have personal bias and making it explicit is the honest thing to do.

I do think the university should look into her obvious intellectual limitations and her bias against homosexuals and women.

Do you think Hines would treat an obviously Conservative supporting student fairly?

Is there a background to the drunkenness theme with her? Many people are that illiterate and stupid when sober so not sure why people are always asking if she’s drunk.

I've never known a university professor that illiterate or stupid, drunk or sober.

Precisely. If that is indeed how she communicates when sober then how did she get a professorial job?

That's v funny Katvon

I think the "drunk" tweeting accusations are just because her tweets are so incoherent.

But she's mightily upset about the article, that's for sure. Feigning defiance doesn't hide that. "Lazy digs from a student journalist will not stop me sharing jokes with friends." Ok Sally, you carry on with your "jokes" that sound homophobic on your public twitter feed - but people will continue to criticise them, and you for thinking it's all right to make them.

But I've checked out Sally's timeline, and those remarks about lesbians/homosexuals were not made to "friends" - they were made during discussions (arguments) with feminists/people disagreeing with her. Screenshot attached - the "tweet not available" are where Sally's deleted her "not-really-jokes".

Do you think Hines would treat an obviously Conservative supporting student fairly

Well, when I was studying anthropology it was understood that we all have bias and it is better to state your bias openly. (Heaven help me, I am not defending that vile woman, just the principle)

Stating one''s bias is not the same as saying hateful things about homosexuals.

That doesn't answer my question. Hines' bias is obvious.

I don't know precisely what her field is but for example if a student were to wrote an essay arguing that Thatcher's policy of selling council houses was one of the greatest causes of social mobility in the 20th century would Hines be capable of marking that objectively? It's a stateable and arguable position.

Not her area, but surely most human beings have a political preference. Frankly any decent professor would judge such an essay in academic terms.

For the record, I don't consider Ms Hines to be a good professor but, in principle, I don't see the problem.

when I was studying anthropology it was understood that we all have bias and it is better to state your bias openly. (Heaven help me, I am not defending that vile woman, just the principle)

I think most would agree with that principle where an academic has a particular political position. There is a wide difference between stating a position and insisting your position is the only morally correct one and that anyone who disagrees is evil.

I think we should be wary of falling into the cancel culture of the Genderists but (given that incredibly aggressive, personal response to an article in a student paper) can any student feel confident that disagreement with Hines will not harm their career?

Academia contains some very bright people. It also contains some people who are not bright. I have heard Sally speak at a lecture and she falls into the latter category. She parrots a script (‘be kind to trans people, challenge what you think is real’) but there is no evidence of flair or deep thinking that I think academics should possess. She has done well to be promoted to prof and this has happened due to obtaining grant funding for an area where funders are currently falling over themselves to give money. When Hines started, it was an unresearched area, meaning that she could claim originality.
But I think Sally recognises that she lacks in the brain power department. It must be difficult to be surrounded by clever people and know you don't fit that definition yourself. Her radio debate with Kathleen was laughable. I think she is partly motivated by jealousy.

She has also produced remarkably little for the REF exercise coming up in a couple of years. I am sure her picture-book about gender sold well but it’s hardly an academic publication, is it Sally? Other than maybe one article, she seems to have no REF outputs so I am sure Leeds were relieved to see her go.

I'm still laughing at this. Hines does not seem to have grasped that students are her livelihood.

Perhaps she could do an academic study on Imposter Syndrome? Might be quite cathartic.

Well, Dr McKinnon got in there first on the thesis about why you don’t need to know what you’re talking about.

'Hines does not seem to have grasped that students are her livelihood.'

As long as the research grant income is rolling in for what she does, they're not really.
My guess is she can pretty much get away with anything as long as she is bringing in huge grants. Once the topic is no longer fashionable she will have to watch her step rather more.

We've had the "I was joking", now we just have to wait for the "It is just research" line!

Come on Sally! Don't let the side down!

now we just have to wait for the "It is just research" line!

She's already used that one:

twitter.com/HadleyFreeman/status/1085995272197545985

Ah, good point Countess.

We live in a strange world where the brilliant, measured and reasonable Selina Todd is being hounded by trans activists trying to persuade Oxford to sack her, while the intellectually feeble Hines, who picks fights and uses childish insults on social media, has a seemingly secure position. Extraordinary.

I could just read the following in the list of threads:

We live in a strange world where the brilliant, measured and reasonable

... and wondered which brilliant, measured, reasonable woman you were going to mention - as so many women who fit that description are under pressure to STFU right now.

Maya Forstater sprang to mind immediately - she's on court today for the second day of her witch trial, sorry I mean tribunal.

I do enjoy the dispatches from the dairy of the professor of bantz and feelz KatVon - brava!

I don't know precisely what her field is but for example if a student were to wrote an essay arguing that Thatcher's policy of selling council houses was one of the greatest causes of social mobility in the 20th century would Hines be capable of marking that objectively? It's a stateable and arguable position.

That’s an excellent question. I know only what I have read in this thread about Hines, but I think the way in which academic institutions have become so permeated with political bias is a serious threat to critical thinking and academic freedom. There was an article about an academic who was terrified of saying he had voted Brexit. There is an authoritarianism which has gained ascendancy in academia and it is inimical to debate, diversity of opinion and the values which academic institutions should be promoting. Not silencing. Much of the intersectional orthodoxy which is the subject of this forum comes from this stultifying environment

I really struggle to credit that an academic could be so dim to take the line, "This is my personal account, and I am using it make personal jokes" when she has both her job tile and her institution listed in her bio. Next she will be telling us that she had her fingers-crossed when she was tweeting, so it doesn't count.