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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Surrey Pride Petition calling for criminalisation of LGB Alliance and 'TERF's'

94 replies

SmileOrDie · 10/11/2019 12:20

''We also urge the government to recognise the messaging in events, literature and posts from extreme organisations such as the LGB alliance and TERF's whose sole purpose is to split up the LGBTQ+ community and deliver hurtful hate that is and should be recognised as hate crime.''

you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/harden-sanctions-on-lgbtq-hate-crime

This is being heavily promoted by Surrey Pride: twitter.com/PrideInSurrey/status/1193092197597487105

Also promoted by Weston Super Mare Pride, winners of the bid to host National Pride 2021: mobile.twitter.com/WSMPRIDE/status/1191418757199077377

Weston Super Mare Pride have a partnership with Vocas Swan, the local victim support service: twitter.com/VOCAS_SWAN/status/1185076740911194112

This victim support service is commissioned by the local police: twitter.com/apcomm999/status/1183758837318344704

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RedDogsBeg · 12/11/2019 14:23

Bold fail, sorry, the comment is between the *'s

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 12/11/2019 14:27

I'd love to say that comment is fake and it's someone shit string using due to the name..... But yeah.

scalliondays · 12/11/2019 16:05

Wasn't it 38 degrees who took down a petition requesting that Maria Miller listen to women's concerns about amending the GRA some years ago?

OhHolyJesus · 12/11/2019 16:11

The text change is slightly better as it includes sex as a characteristic but who made Stephen Ireland on what makes a bigot? Surely that's subjective? It sounds to me like anyone who disagrees with him or people who hold that view are bigots. That is a hate crime as it is targeting a group of people based on their beliefs. It may not be a recognised hate crime but if a religious belief can be protected then my beliefs, as a star of being, can also be protected no?

WomanBornNotWorn · 12/11/2019 16:31

I reported is as sexist, homophobic misogynist

Awaywiththepiskies · 12/11/2019 17:24

Well if that statement by Aimee C. isn’t fake, then it says something about long term effects of abuse in a family, and the role model of a father in modelling masculinity.

Like father, like ... ? Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

Inebriati · 12/11/2019 21:43

Wasn't it 38 degrees who took down a petition requesting that Maria Miller listen to women's concerns about amending the GRA some years ago?

Yep.

OhHolyJesus · 12/11/2019 23:05

Joss P has also signed, looks like comments are now switched off.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 13/11/2019 00:26

When they changed the wording did the petition restart? Surely it doesn’t allow word changing (even minor changes) and keep the signatures?

OhHolyJesus · 13/11/2019 08:01

The signatures remained I think, they text was just edited.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 13/11/2019 08:07

They've changed the text and kept the signatures? Wow. Scope for all sorts. Wonder what it'll end up as?

Birdsfoottrefoil · 13/11/2019 08:13

‘Just edited the text’ you mean like gathering signatures for ‘stop fox hunting’ then ‘just edit the text’ to ‘support fox hunting’?

breakfastpizza · 15/11/2019 20:50

At the very least, we got the wording changed. Thanks to everyone who flagged it.

OhHolyJesus · 22/11/2019 21:49

It's holding at 274 signatures and has been since the last person signed it 9 days ago...

MrGHardy · 22/11/2019 23:47

"LGB alliance and TERF's whose sole purpose is to split up the LGBTQ+ community"

Well you didn't listen to their concerns and silenced them so they had to leave. Who is the one splitting the community?

ps not to mention the idiocy of thinking that a 'community' and 'splitting' of said 'community' is in any way even remotely a legal matter.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 23/11/2019 00:01

The legitimacy of any petition on that platform (38degrees) is destroyed by the fact you can change the wording and keep the signatures. How can you ever be sure what the signatories ever actually signed?

PurpleHoodie · 23/11/2019 07:52

Exactly that MrGH

Utterly destroyed Birds

Eastcider · 07/12/2019 20:19

The only thing oppressing them is their own mind. Everyone knows they have insecurity issues because if they were confident in who they really are, they wouldn't try to be something else. (Above all, special). Majority has and always will, rule in a safe and logical society and expecting said majority to bend over and beg apologize or even celebrate for their 'situation' is like poking a pissed off horse. They are lucky we accept their homosexuality as in most other countries would gladly see to their death. (Like your prized and cherished Islamists). You live in the 'best' country in the world twitter.com/theworldindex/status/1202572526603448320

and still find room to complain.
I cannot blame society for being uncaring or uncompassionate to my plight if I decide to walk around in a diaper saying 'goo goo ga ga" expecting people to embrace it only because I'm a minority. The point being missed is, when it is said "majority rules" it's because what the minority does, tends to be less than favorable in most cases (that's why it's a minority and at best can only expect tolerance, not blind compassion).
Secondary points include things like the fact that many sexual deviants are also (in many cases) sex offenders.
You can't expect reasonable minds of a majority to succumb to a blind love or trust of a 'group' of people just because said group 'feels' oppresses or "intolerated". And if we do we EXPECT the same treatment to be reciprocated, or no deal.
I also expect people to engage in rage towards what I say here, but that only stems from the fact that you know what you're asking for is biased and unfair.
You want us to hand over our trust, force us to pretend to like what you're doing to and for society, and want us to come running like there's a fire when all you want is to pee in a woman's washroom.
On that last topic, isn't it funny how the first (crossdressing) male to be allowed in a local schools' girls bathroom, he did EXACTLY what we feared he would do: Take video and pics of the girls in the bathroom! (See Jessica Yaniv story)
So, no.. We don't trust you, no we won't hand over our trust, no you will not have final say as if your a majority. You will enjoy your situation and life any way you see fit, but beware if you try to force people to care about it. You will only find resistance.
I'm beginning to think you like fighting for power as a minority more than being actually gay and enjoying it.
People don't like talking about puke and poop, so we don't normally bring it up in public. What you are doing is intimidating people into succumbing to your condition, and begging them to help. If it's a power struggle don't you think a good way to flex that is to carry yourself with confidence and pride? Because all we see is anger and hate for those that don't care.
Quit jamming **it down our throats we get enough of that from corporate medias and governments. There are bigger fish to fry.
Not only are they too busy and stressed to care about the feeling of a stranger or where they pee at, they don't give a rat's ass.
It's only because I love you and maintain hope in a sustainable, reasonable society that I pass mention to the reality of this issue.
I do hope that as a minority your group can find it's way to being safe and comfortable in our society. There is no safer place.
But for that to happen you must first become comfortable with yourselves.I can't blame others for my fears, those are my demons and cannot expect people to care. They have their own.

BatShite · 08/12/2019 17:47

Why is LGB alliance trasphobic as it does't include T, but the likes of 'trans pride' are not homophobic as they don't include LGB? Why the desperation to keep T aligned with LGB? Hmm. Hmm

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