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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Emma Watson talks to Paris Lees about feminism

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HandsOffMyRights · 05/11/2019 11:02

'This Christmas, Watson is back on the big screen as Margaret “Meg” March in Greta Gerwig’s adaptation of Louisa May Alcott’s Little Women.

The project couldn’t be a better fit for Emma, combining, as it does, many of her loves: literature, film and exploring the female experience. “With Meg’s character, her way of being a feminist is making the choice – because that’s really, for me anyway, what feminism is about,”

Interesting that "female choice" is what Emma deems feminism to be, as reported by Lees.

www.vogue.co.uk/news/article/emma-watson-on-fame-activism-little-women

Emma showing her brand of feminism here

metro.co.uk/2018/10/18/emma-watson-praised-for-being-lgbtq-ally-by-wearing-trans-rights-are-human-rights-t-shirt-8051491/

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ViktoriaLukas · 05/11/2019 11:04

Emma Watson lost me when she posed topless for (I think) Vogue.

MrsSnippyPants · 05/11/2019 11:06

Not a big enough eye roll in the world.
Does anyone else find that certain films and TV programmes are now ruined for you once you knows the completely anti-women views of some actors?

Whatsnewpussyhat · 05/11/2019 11:08

She's rich enough to be able to pretend to fight for women's rights.

Driechdrizzle · 05/11/2019 11:16

With Meg’s character, her way of being a feminist is making the choice – because that’s really, for me anyway, what feminism is about

Is this woman stupid? What choices does she think middle class white American women had in the 19th century. Wife and mother was their allotted role whether they liked it or not.

She seems to think Jo made a different "choice", so clearly Emma hasn't read the rest of the series because Jo married Mr Bhaer and became a wife and mother too. Louisa M. Alcott even called the second book in the series "Good Wives".

Maybe Emma needs to start thinking about how many women died in childbirth before high tech medicine and contraception came on the scene or how they spent their lives having massive families, not all of whom survived and how feminism relates to those facts. Idiot.

MockersthefeMANist · 05/11/2019 11:16

Wake me up when Emma Watson plays a grown-up in a film.

ShesDressedInBlackAgain · 05/11/2019 11:37

The thread title just makes me think 'Why? What's the point?' Confused

It's like 'Jeremy Corbyn talks to Michael Gove about Haute Coture' or 'Kim Kardashian and Kanye West discuss the offside rule'

zanahoria · 05/11/2019 11:53

“I’m Very Happy Being Single. I Call It Being Self-Partnerer"

I am OK with it too but I call it being single ~ so why invent a silly new name for it if you are happy?

ProTransUK · 05/11/2019 12:02

If you only define rad-fems as feminist, then this is the inevitable conclusion.
There are a few thousand rad-fems in the entire country - they represent no-one but themselves.

FlaviaAlbia · 05/11/2019 12:06

Wow. So many eye rolls here.

I wonder how many women who'd been jailed for a violent assault would be given a job interviewing celebrities about feminism. Maybe they'd be the wrong kind of women, the ones who are held to higher standards and have female biology.

GCAcademic · 05/11/2019 12:12

Watson has a brand to promote and her shallow activism is part of that. She has never lived in the real world, having had a privileged upbringing and more money than most people could even dream of. It’s a shame that that isn’t enough for her, and that she has to continue to self-promote to add to her millions by trampling on the rights of women who are outwith her sphere of immense privilege. Greedy and ruthless is what I call that sort of behaviour. As for her vacuous pronouncements on feminism, well - what a waste of an ivy-league education. I’d have hoped that students studying literature would be capable of articulating something more profound than “feminism is about choice”.

Doyoumind · 05/11/2019 12:12

Trans women have human rights, being human and all that. It's such a nonsense statement and makes me certain Emma hasn't spent long considering the debate in detail.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 05/11/2019 12:19

Lazy bollocks from Emma

Little Women shows women and girls as real people with a degree of agency within the confines of the time, but that’s about as far as it goes with regards to feminism

Let’s engage our critical thinking shall we Emma?

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 05/11/2019 12:21

'Kim Kardashian and Kanye West discuss the offside rule'

In fairness that one has comedic potential.

CarolCutrere · 05/11/2019 12:34

Is this woman stupid?

Emma Watson? Yes. Vacuous is her middle name. She always has been vapid and vacuous. If I had to choose to spend time with either I'd choose Paris Lees.

CarolCutrere · 05/11/2019 12:36

Watson has a brand to promote and her shallow activism is part of that. She has never lived in the real world, having had a privileged upbringing and more money than most people could even dream of

Lees for all her faults had a much harder time than Watson. The assault was when she was much younger and wasn't it a punter? That doesn't excuse it but people do change and should be allowed second chances.

CarolCutrere · 05/11/2019 12:51

Speaking at the UN in 2014, she [Watson] said: ‘If we stop defining each other by what we are not and start defining ourselves by what we are — we can all be freer and this is what HeForShe is about"

Pretty much a dictionary example of vacuous inanity.

MockersthefeMANist · 05/11/2019 13:32

'Kim Kardashian and Kanye West discuss the offside rule'
In fairness that one has comedic potential.

If she played in defence, with VAR Kim's arse would be playing everyone on-side.

Mumfun · 05/11/2019 13:59

Wake me up when she becomes a grown up

Antibles · 05/11/2019 14:09

I would like to see Emma make her way here and read us. Alice should come too.

3timeslucky · 05/11/2019 14:22

She's loving the idea of herself as an activist isn't she?! roll eyes

Driechdrizzle · 05/11/2019 14:23

It's branding. Hermione was an activist for elves, now Emma is an activist for trans people.

HandsOffMyRights · 05/11/2019 14:57

Emma is no friend to women.

Around the GRA reform deadline she nailed her colours to the mast.

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MissLawls · 05/11/2019 15:49

Emma is no friend to women

Agree.

And no one is "self partnered." That's contradictory. To be in a partnership there have to be two of you. There is only one Emma Watson.

I bet Hermione Granger would never say something so crass. If you've read JKR's latest Robert Galbraith book you can be pretty sure Hermione wouldn't say such a thing.

BickerinBrattle · 05/11/2019 15:57

The question I always ponder with respect to activists is just what is their theory of change? Emma’s is apparently a theory that change happens when we all can choose our own labels.

I fail to see how choosing a personal label changes anything for a single mother working two jobs to pay rent and feed her children.

However, it might be possible that if we all labeled ourselves, correctly, as the 99%, change might follow. I don’t think it would be the sort of change Emma of the 1% would like.

Hence she, like so many others, wittingly or unwittingly, work to divide us along all sorts of different lines and into multitudes of categories: with how many, after all, will a Gen Z skoliosexual neuroatypical trans non-binary femme find unity?

Certainly not with 99% of the population.