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Oh look, it's those guidelines making no sense whatsoever again!

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 04/11/2019 17:09

So, I got an email about a comment in which I said that I wanted to know why genderists keep comparing trans identified males to black women and lesbians being deleted. I think this is absolutely barmy, and have said so to HQ. I'm also baffled as to how this breaks any guidelines and thought perhaps it was time for us as a group to revisit the guidelines and explain once more to MNHQ why they're not working.

What's actually happening here is the the obsessive trans activists who monitor this site are attempting to pick off posters one by one. We lost Orchid last week, and she was just the most recent of many. I'm not sure in MNHQ realize that's happening and welcome it or if it's somehow escaped their notice, but it's a pretty messed up thing for them to be allowing to happen to their users, in my opinion. Are they going to allow this to continue until the only commenters left in this forum are the TRAs who want the entire site shut down?

I know the people who despise the women here would very much like this to all happen under the radar, and that's exactly why I'm not allowing it to play out that way.

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Nuffaluff · 08/11/2019 18:02

Talking That is a brilliant post.

Cascade220 · 08/11/2019 18:04

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BeMoreMagdalen · 08/11/2019 18:09

Astounding, Talking. Best fucking post on the whole of MN, ever. The internet, in fact. You've articulated in blistering fashion, what so many of us have struggling to pinpoint ever since the guidelines were imposed.

Not enough FlowersFlowersFlowers to possibly illustrate how brilliant that post is.

IsadoraQuagmire · 08/11/2019 18:11

Well said Talking

MsMcWibble · 08/11/2019 18:16

Talking. Thanks for that. Hope it gets spread far and wide.

FlaviaAlbia · 08/11/2019 18:21

Talking 👏👏👏👏👏👏

Datun · 08/11/2019 18:24

TalkingintheDark

Fantastic. Nailed it.

Thank you for articulating the nub of the matter so comprehensively.

TheChampagneGalop · 08/11/2019 18:24

I hope Talking's post will be read carefully by the mods and not deleted. I copied it just in case.

Cuntysnark · 08/11/2019 18:36

Brilliant post. Perfect.

Cuntysnark · 08/11/2019 18:39

I’ve copied & pasted it for posterity.

theflushedzebra · 08/11/2019 18:39

Thank you Talkin - I too have copied your post. It is one of the best things I have ever read on mumsnet.

theflushedzebra · 08/11/2019 18:42

For you @TalkingintheDark Wine

Oh look, it's those guidelines making no sense whatsoever again!
CriticalCondition · 08/11/2019 18:49

Brilliant, Talking, absolutely brilliant. Thank you.

I've copied it as well.

Michelleoftheresistance · 08/11/2019 18:52

Talking yes. Exactly that. Flowers

boldlygoingsomewhere · 08/11/2019 18:56

Talking thank you for your brilliant post. That is absolutely what the truth of the matter is.

testing987654321 · 08/11/2019 18:56

I agree with every word talking.

And that's why I don't spend too much time desperately trying to stick to the guidelines.

I'd rather be deleted for saying a man is a man, than not say it.

I don't believe it helps a discussion for us to be treading on eggshells.

PurpleCrowbar · 08/11/2019 18:57

Exactly that Talking.

It's an amazing post, to add to our arsenal of outstanding posts which go viral on other platforms after being (potentially) deleted here.

& I really hope MN let it stand. But if not, that is also making our argument for us.Thanks

HorseWithNoFucksToGive · 08/11/2019 19:01

Yep. Copied. Excellent post. Every word.

Ereshkigal · 08/11/2019 19:04

Amazing post, Talking Thanks

Uncompromisingwoman · 08/11/2019 19:06

Great post Talking. Flowers

I wonder how many times it has been reported - that would be very telling...

Joisanofthedales · 08/11/2019 19:12

Wonderful post by talking. Please someone post it on spinster etc. Let's spread it to other women FlowersFlowersFlowers

Joisanofthedales · 08/11/2019 19:14

So maybe having read that incredible post we can have a change in guidance for the feminist section of mumsnet.

DubiousGoals · 08/11/2019 19:18

Thank you Talking, what a wonderful post.

ThanksThanksThanks

LangCleg · 08/11/2019 19:19

Please someone post it on spinster etc.

Talking - if you want, I can do that for you?

Driechdrizzle · 08/11/2019 19:24

Thank you so much Talking for so beautifully articulating the truth. Agree with every word. Also agree that it is the best post on Mumsnet, ever. It's true that Mumsnet wouldn't exist if feminists hadn't existed first. Women speaking freely is not something that male supremacy wants to allow, hence their attempts to shut us down.

What is actually happening to women here is a form of persecution.

Yes it is. You're exactly right.