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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Janice Turner V Munroe Bergdorf NSPCC

44 replies

NeurotrashWarrior · 30/10/2019 17:13

IPSO ruling: Decision: No breach - after investigation

https://www.ipso.co.uk/rulings-and-resolution-statements/ruling/

Tweet:

https://twitter.com/victoriapeckham/status/1189585183604989953?s=21

Cheers Janice WineGin

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EmpressLesbianInChair · 30/10/2019 17:13

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ScrimshawTheSecond · 30/10/2019 17:15
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MissLawls · 30/10/2019 17:16

Quick draw McGraw! I just came here to post that. Copy and pasted the link and everything.

With the Centre Parcs thing too, this is a good day for common sense.

Cascade220 · 30/10/2019 17:18

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jenthelibrarian · 30/10/2019 17:19

Excellent news!

FilthyBiscuit · 30/10/2019 17:22

Excellent.

What's the Centre Parcs thing?

Datun · 30/10/2019 17:22

7. The newspaper did not accept a breach of the Code. It said it was not in dispute that the complainant had modelled for Playboy; the newspaper said that the number of engagements secured by the complainant was not at issue, the point the columnist was making in referring to “modelling for Playboy, fetish and lingerie shoots”, was that, in her opinion, anyone engaged in the kind of work suggested by that three-part description might not be an appropriate ambassador for a child protection charity. The newspaper provided a number of posts which the complainant had published on social media, which it said confirmed that she does “lingerie and fetish modelling.” The newspaper said that when a person devotes a significant amount of time to and presumably earns a significant income from posing for such photographs and sharing them on social media to promote a public image and personal "brand", it was not inaccurate to refer to this activity as the person's "day job"

Can't understand how Bergdorf could have been advised to challenge any of this. It's all there in black and white.

NeurotrashWarrior · 30/10/2019 17:24

I don't think my link is working but can be found in the twitter link, which should open even without twitter.

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FilthyBiscuit · 30/10/2019 17:24

Am I reading this right? The complaint being whether she was engaged modelling for Playboy? Not about that this could have made her unsuitable for the NSPCC??

NeurotrashWarrior · 30/10/2019 17:26

Can't understand how Bergdorf could have been advised to challenge any of this. It's all there in black and white.

Generalised narcissism of the whole TRA ideology.

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TalkingintheDark · 30/10/2019 17:26

Wonderful news!

The denial of modelling for Playboy is especially hilarious.

She said that she... had only given one editorial interview to Playboy in her career - why would Bergdorf try to claim something so easily demonstrably false??

Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, perhaps?

Cheers, Janice! 🍷

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 30/10/2019 17:27

Can't understand how Bergdorf could have been advised to challenge any of this

I doubt they were advised. I'd love to see the original complaint, I strongly suspect that it was an incoherent stream of narcissistic rage because they were booted by the NSPCC.

NeurotrashWarrior · 30/10/2019 17:29

I also can't get my head around the "body positive" bit.

I thought that was the complete opposite of playboy and lingerie modelling.

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EmpressLesbianInChair · 30/10/2019 17:29

First Belcher went for Janice, now Bergdorf. And they’ve both failed Grin

Joisanofthedales · 30/10/2019 17:31

Feeling very smiley 😊

TalkingintheDark · 30/10/2019 17:33

Generalised narcissism of the whole TRA ideology.

Indeed.

It is mind-boggling isn’t it that the NSPCC were so gung-ho about appointing Bergdorf in the first place when this person has absolutely no connection with or even awareness of child protection through their life, interests or experience. Absolutely none, nothing.

The power of the sacred caste of trans. As the dialogue in that ep of Family Guy went, “oh, you’re transgender? In that case do whatever you want all the time.”

TalkingintheDark · 30/10/2019 17:34

Yes, Empress! It’s deeply cheering, isn’t it!

VickyEadieofThigh · 30/10/2019 17:35

Bergdorf ain't the sharpest tool in the shed.

Melroses · 30/10/2019 17:37

A tool nonetheless.

JulietakaIris · 30/10/2019 17:38

What's the Center Parcs thing?

SingingLily · 30/10/2019 17:38

Confirms my view that Janice Turner is a serious journalist with real integrity and courage. The Times knows her value and, thankfully, is happy to stand with her.

MockersthefeMANist · 30/10/2019 17:38

In a world (country) where you have to pay a small fortune to go to an industrial tribunal, could not repeat vexatious complainants be slapped with a costs order?

MissLawls · 30/10/2019 17:39

@FilthyBiscuit What's the Centre Parcs thing

There's a thread on it. They have kept changing facilities single sex as permitted under the Equality Act 2010.

MissLawls · 30/10/2019 17:41

Confirms my view that Janice Turner is a serious journalist with real integrity and courage. The Times knows her value and, thankfully, is happy to stand with her

She's a good all-round egg all right. And she follows me on Twitter!

HandsOffMyRights · 30/10/2019 17:43

Well done Janice.

Can somebody, who's been wading through the gender quagmire for longer than me, explain the history between the IPSO and Trans Media Watch?

I was reading the regulatory capture thread and there was mention of some TRAs lobbying the organisation hard regarding 'rules' relating to the reporting of issues relating to gender ID.

If the guidelines were already biased then this is even more of a victory for our Janice.

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