JustGiving Censorship

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According to The Times JustGiving have suspended the website for the new LGB Alliance.

Why??? What can be done to address this?

Thanks for flagging this TRA numpties and bringing to the attention of a wider audience. I'll make sure to send them some money.

Exactly. The more they try to shut down the voices of those they want to control, the more publicity the LGB group will get. It’s going to backfire on them, as usual.

The more proof we can get that Owen Jones & Stonewall are demonstrating homophobia, the better.

Why don't you want to support same sex attracted people Regina? Given their status all over the world?

I can id as male gender. Live with my dh in a regressive country. No one is going to arrest us. Because I've got a cunt and he's got a dick and that is aok everywhere.

regina I would but I was banned for saying men should use men’s toilets. I am sure you consider that hate too?

There are loads and loads of organisations that are focused solely on trans issues. Why so much hatred for one that wants to focus solely on issues affecting those who are same sex attracted?

The priorities and issues are entirely different

Regina suppose you have a woman born with a vulva who only finds herself sexually attracted to other women born with vulvas. Furthermore, through no fault of her own, it rapidly became apparent as she was growing up that what should have been a private, personal part of her life in fact carried political and social consequences - until relatively recently she could be dismissed from her job, wasn't allowed to marry or adopt...

What name is it acceptable for such a woman to call herself? And given the resurgence of right wing views and the fear that her recent gains in acquiring the same legal rights and protections the rest of us take for granted might prove precarious and need defending, would it be acceptable for her to form a political group to campaign for the defence of those rights?

Does she have a name? Does she have the right of free association for political purposes? Can she not exclude anyone from her political activism if she feels their aims don't align with hers?

I am wondering if Regina has made the rookie error of looking at one of the troll twitter accounts and thinking it was real - I think Jane Fae also did that.
In fact I am also wondering if both Just Giving and Garden Court Chambers have been equally naive.
It's pretty easy to tell because the fake ones don't have many followers but some people are not very savvy about this kind of thing might not realise.

@reginafelangee
Please go and take your bigotry and homophobia somewhere else.

Look at the LGB Alliance's twitter feed. It's pretty clear it's a hate organisation.

Are you saying that people who are gay and lesbian are hateful?

How exactly?

And so my point is proved...

Why are you asking questions of reginafelangee? Like all TRAs they cannot debate or justify their stance. They are here to tell you to STFU and scream 'transphobia' at everything. Any organisation that will oppose the mutilation and sterilisation of gay, autistic and gender confused children has my backing, morally and financially. Any organisation that pushes for the medicalisation of these children and blocks any questioning into their background and psychological state is pure evil and can FRO. You will not win this fight.

Look at the LGB Alliance's twitter feed. It's pretty clear it's a hate organisation.

I don't see it. What specifically have they said that is hateful?

If some LGB people did not feel that Stonewall etc were recognising or listening to their needs/concerns as LGB people, then I don't see what's wrong with them making their own group to accommodate their needs. Stonewall still exists and any LGBT people who feel like it represents them can continue to stand behind it.

Why are you asking questions of reginafelangee? Like all TRAs they cannot debate or justify their stance. They are here to tell you to STFU and scream 'transphobia' at everything.

For the lurkers, Apollo, for the lurkers.

Every time you ask a pertinent, well argued question, supported by evidence, and the response comes back "you're all hateful bigots, flounce," another lurker thinks "okay, so I've always wanted to be kind and open minded, and I still am all those things, but I begin to see why these people I thought were just crazy extreme feminists might actually have a point on this one. And maybe they're not the ones who're extreme, and maybe they're not the ones who're hateful."

Current trend seems to be to stop using 'transphobic' because its use was becoming obviously ridiculous, and instead say 'hate'. Equally without any attempt to explain or analyse, just stating that x is a hate group, y is a hate sticker, z is hate speech. In particular, any attempt to imply or state disagreement with the statement 'transwomen are women, transmen are men' will be labelled as hate speech. Because without that statement, the entire case for all of the regulatory capture, the case for opposite sex access to sex defined spaces, and in particular the case for transition or medicalisation of children, is exposed as being insubstantial and illogical.

Look at the LGB Alliance's twitter feed. It's pretty clear it's a hate organisation.

You do realise, don't you Regina, that hate groups have to comply to a specific set of criteria to be considered such?

This is just a wild stab in the dark, but setting up an advocacy group for gay, lesbian and bisexual people, given that their sexual orientation is a protected characteristic under law, doesn't quite meet the bar.

I'm really getting sick of this 'OMG hate playground nonsense. If you have to write your opinion down, at least make it something that you actually understand.

Current trend seems to be to stop using 'transphobic' because its use was becoming obviously ridiculous, and instead say 'hate'.

Well again, that's not going to work on a site like this. Oh my God I hate you, is universally recognised by mothers as a tantrum.

Usually as a result of boundary enforcement, of course.

Reported @reginafelangee for homophobia

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Well again, that's not going to work on a site like this. Oh my God I hate you, is universally recognised by mothers as a tantrum

If only Mumsnetters were paid to do police training....

I’m confident this funding page will be reinstated. Some TRA’s, presumably using some threat of hate crime nonsense, will have targeted it with much outrage and froth. All sound and fury that will result in no actual substance. As per usual.

"Current trend seems to be to stop using 'transphobic' because its use was becoming obviously ridiculous, and instead say 'hate'."

'Hate' is easier to spell.

The justgiving page reached £3,490 of their £25,000 target in the less than 24hrs it was active. There is obviously a lot of damned up public support for lesbians, gays and bisexuals.

Although homophobic mass reporting managed to trigger a temporary shut down over the weekend, it won't take long for justgiving to investigate, and any investigation will inevitably result in them dismissing the reports as unfounded homophobic abuse.

In the long run this malicious attack shines a spotlight on why the LGB alliance is needed. The increased publicity once the justgiving page reopens for donations will result in many more people hearing about the initiative, and happily dipping into their pockets to show support.

The other thing is, it's useful to get this over now rather than at the official launch in January.