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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

very few of us know what sex we are

121 replies

greenapplesred12 · 24/10/2019 17:08

Someone just said this to me.
They said that there are numerous ways to determine someone's sex apart from chromosomes. And that there are as many genders as there are people. And, this old chestnut " sex is assigned at birth"
How do I respond to this? This person is a health professional. This person posted on a health forum where about 80-90% of other professionals were in agreement with him. Why are people buying into this stuff?

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Whatwouldbigfatfannydo · 24/10/2019 17:11

I think we need to let the world continue falling to shit and start over again Envy

CatalogueUniverse · 24/10/2019 17:11

I’m pretty sure anyone who has menstruated or conceived a child knows what sex they are.

testing987654321 · 24/10/2019 17:12

Ask them if they know how to make a baby? And what types of humans they would pick to do this.

They must find life very confusing if they can't answer that question correctly.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 24/10/2019 17:12

A young girl who has experienced FGM absolutely knows she's female

CatalogueUniverse · 24/10/2019 17:12

Sex is observed.
And in 1st world countries if it is ambiguous genetic testing is done.

MythicalBiologicalFennel · 24/10/2019 17:13

Must be a mystery to them how the human race has managed to reproduce...

CaptainKirksSpikeyGhost · 24/10/2019 17:13

Why are people buying into this stuff?

Humans are on the whole, stupid followers.

How do I respond to this?

I'd probably just laugh.

Northernsoullover · 24/10/2019 17:14

I know what sex I am because I am suffering with menstrual cramps at this very minute. I've had two babies too. I'm confident I'm female.

corlan · 24/10/2019 17:15

Why are people buying into this stuff?

Possibly because they're not very bright?

(I know what sex I am. I'm the sex that goes through the menopause, so I'm really bloody grumpy after a sleepless night!)

MockersthefeMANist · 24/10/2019 17:17

Anyone who knows what sex is knows which one they are.

People who can't tell their arse from their elbow also struggle with their tits and bollocks.

OneTerrificMouse · 24/10/2019 17:17

Surely no human has produced both big gametes AND small gametes?

Grasspigeons · 24/10/2019 17:17

Scary stuff. Si many illnesses present different for men and women, so msny are more common in one or the other and presumably some like ovarian cancer only occur in women. I like the pick two people to make a baby. Maybe pick someone likely to suffer erectile dystfunction. People take men being able to have sex really seriously.

pallisers · 24/10/2019 17:18

I'd probably say "I'm very sorry for your trouble. I hope you manage to figure it out very soon".

truthisarevolutionaryact · 24/10/2019 17:19

Ask them what you should look for when choosing a surrogate?

OhHolyJesus · 24/10/2019 17:19

I would ask this person what sex they were and how did they know? I would ask how sex is assigned - if this person replied that the doctor had a look between the legs I would say it was observed.

I would ask how many biological sexes there were and I would ask them to define gender and ask them not to confide or conflate gender with sex and gender identity...and if we got into sexuality I would ask them not to discuss it further as they clearly don't know what they are talking about and as a HCP they should know better.

But then I can say all this as I'm not you OP and I don't know this person but you and I both know they are talking BS.

BarbaraStrozzi · 24/10/2019 17:19

People who can't tell their arse from their elbow also struggle with their tits and bollocks

Yup, sadly that about sums it up.

Earlywalker · 24/10/2019 17:22

When people refer to Gender they are typically referring to the social construct as a label according to stereotypes, i would agree that many people may not know where they fit in on that scale and it may not match with the traditional roles of their sex.

Sex is binary and is determined solely on your reproductive organs.

I don’t think anyone doesn’t know what sex they are unless they’ve never looked in between their legs but I believe some people get confused when their gender and sex don’t ‘match’ and think this means their sex is inaccurate.

boatyardblues · 24/10/2019 17:23

I’m pretty sure anyone who has menstruated or conceived a child knows what sex they are.

There’s no doubt in my mind that I am unambiguously female. Still, there’s no accounting for overt stupidity.

ISaySteadyOn · 24/10/2019 17:26

My cramping uterus shedding its lining and the three children I gave birth to are pretty definitive of my being of the female sex I should think.

BlueCornsihPixie · 24/10/2019 17:26

See I'm not sure

I have a vagina, I have periods and I have as pair of tits

But I do sometimes wear trousers...And I also like football. I could actually be having male periods, and have a male vagina. Who knows eh?

Datun · 24/10/2019 17:29

It's like saying you can't tell the difference between a cat and a squirrel because they both have a head, four legs, a tail and are furry.

Of course there are numerous ways to tell one's sex without a chromosome test! There are 6500 genetic differences between men and women, OP.

Fortunately for dating, unfortunately for sexism.

Ffsnosexallowed · 24/10/2019 17:30

My response would be to laugh and day "don't talk shite"

greenapplesred12 · 24/10/2019 17:31

I'm honestly banging my head against a wall.
I have a feeling that my employer would prefer me to talk about the wide spectrum of genders and how most of us don't know what our biological sex is. I watch other people, educated professionals, playing along with this stuff and wonder why. I'm honestly baffled.

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elfycat · 24/10/2019 17:33

BlueCornishPixie.

I feel your pain, I also have offspring which I birthed, breastfed from my functional mammary glands and am currently at the transitioning into full menopause 'don't give a shit' phase. I also tend to wear dresses and skirts and have long hair with no signs of male-patterned baldness.

BUT I like gaming, read scifi and fantasy, and have stripped and engine down and refurbished it as a course - for fun.

Actually maybe that was it. I was 17 when I took this evening class in engine stuff. Maybe I've been a man from then on?

Frequency · 24/10/2019 17:34

I don’t think anyone doesn’t know what sex they are unless they’ve never looked in between their legs but I believe some people get confused when their gender and sex don’t ‘match’ and think this means their sex is inaccurate

Sex cannot be inaccurate. It's literally impossible. Sex is a biological reality determined by a number of biological factors including but limited to genitalia, chromosomes and hormones.

Gender is a social construct which is entirely different to sex. It is determined by changeable, often dangerous and discriminatory, social factors. It varies throughout history and between cultures whereas sex is fixed and never changes.

I have immense pity for the 0.05% of people who suffer from the mental illness gender dysphoria but their sex is not inaccurate. They have an insidious mental illness.

I fully support the right of either gender to wear or present as whatever the fuck they like but putting on clothes currently associated with a different gender does not make one a different sex nor does it make their sex inaccurate.

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