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RIP Deborah Orr

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myrtleWilson · 20/10/2019 21:38

Am shocked, I knew she was ill but never expected this so soon.

Her tweets about her ex being an arse when she was at her lowest were heartbreaking and her joy at seeing reviews of her book was infectious.

RIP

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NoSquirrels · 24/10/2019 00:06

Her Twitter account has been deleted. I understand it probably has to do with her family and privacy but it's sad - there was such a wealth of material there.

I noticed that certain tweets had been deleted yesterday - I suspect whoever was doing it (one of her sons, I'd assume, as mostly they were references to her ex) just decided it was better to take it all down. It is sad; she was so fearlessly don't give a fuck honest in life, it seems wrong somehow in death. But we don't have a right to it, and her family should be allowed privacy in grief.

Karabair · 24/10/2019 00:11

She might have wanted her Twitter to come down after she'd gone. It would be difficult for her family to see it still there.

Barracker · 24/10/2019 08:46

Oh that's so sad about the twitter account.
Her words are her legacy, her thoughts, her opinions.

I hate to think of them vanishing.

RoyalCorgi · 24/10/2019 08:58

I notice Will Self is also about to publish a memoir. Interesting timing.

Haworthia · 24/10/2019 09:22

I’m shocked her Twitter has gone. I think that’s terrible.

I doubt she wanted it deleted. She said a lot of bad stuff about Will Self though...

Saucery · 24/10/2019 09:44

Got an order in for Motherwell.
The closest I’m going to get to Self’s memoir is the inevitable piss-take in Private Eye.

OneTerrificMouse · 24/10/2019 09:44

It has probably gone because TRAs were snipping her posts and discussing in non-positive tones how they felt at the death of a 'transphobe'.

NoSquirrels · 24/10/2019 09:44

I notice Will Self is also about to publish a memoir. Interesting timing

That was one of her tweets at the news. Something like ‘I just wanted one book. One, for me.’

Never mind, she’ll have the last laugh - her book will be much greater acclaimed than his.

SirVixofVixHall · 24/10/2019 09:55

She is by far the better writer.
I loathe Will Self Self Self for how he treated her .

BIWitch · 24/10/2019 10:01

I've not had any time for Will Self since he was the guest speaker at The Marketing Society's annual dinner (a very big, glitzy, black tie affair). And he used his speech - which no doubt he was being paid gazillions for - to lambast marketing.

Fine to hate marketing, but don't take their money and then do it Angry

Karabair · 24/10/2019 10:24

Someone will get all the press coverage, attention and readers and it won't be Will. How awful of him to try and take that away from her when she was dying. Her book is her memorial.

Haworthia · 24/10/2019 16:28

The more I think about it, the more disgraceful it is that Twitter agreed to delete Deborah’s Twitter. She only died on Saturday FFS. Whoever made the request wasted absolutely no time.

One final abusive act from an abusive ex?

I took some screenshots of the worst thing Deborah shared because I found it so chilling. I’m sort of glad I did now.

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Haworthia · 24/10/2019 16:28

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Pota2 · 24/10/2019 16:44

My god he’s a vile piece of shit isn’t he? Absolutely stone cold and heartless. I wish she’d left his sorry ass 10 years ago and enjoyed some proper years of her life without that waste of space.

ARoombaOfOnesOwn · 24/10/2019 16:46

Oh Haworthia Sad Angry

I had read bits of Deborah’s Twitter, but not that. JFC.

BIWitch · 24/10/2019 16:56

Sad Angry

Haworthia · 24/10/2019 17:21

Sickening isn’t it? The denying she had a fever, “losing” the thermometer, pretending not to understand the reading...

Just imagine being that sick and that helpless.

Karabair · 24/10/2019 18:13

"make me sorry for taking him on"

I hate that man. What an appalling story. Poor Deborah.

GrinitchSpinach · 24/10/2019 18:26

I imagine they took "in sickness and in health" vows. What a repulsive, disloyal, dishonorable, oathbreaking man.

I didn't comment on this thread before because I'm not very familiar with her work. Now I will be sure to go back to read Deborah's published oeuvre.

Karabair · 24/10/2019 18:35

I hadn't realised she was the editor of Guardian Weekend in the mid 90s. I used to buy it every week, because it was a terrific magazine. Mainly because Julie Burchill, who Orr commissioned, wrote a column winding up the liberals.

She also used to hold an annual "no men allowed" part for her women friends in her house at Christmas. I hope she sent Will to the cinema with fifty pence for a bag of crisps and instructions not to come home until really, really late.

ChattyLion · 24/10/2019 18:41

I am so sorry to read that. What an appalling experience that must have been for her.

ChattyLion · 24/10/2019 18:52

I used to love Julie Burchill’s column too. Then the weekend mag went shit and I stopped buying the Saturday Guardian. Didn’t realise that was Deborah Orr. Flowers I used to read her column in the Indy and really liked it.

TemporaryPermanent · 24/10/2019 19:04

Tbh I can understand why her children would want tweets publicly discussing shitty conflicts between their parents taken out of circulation. I loved her writing and I didn't know her at all (I should be so lucky) but I found those discussions happening on twitter pretty uncomfortable.

TemporaryPermanent · 24/10/2019 19:06

Also I think it's very possible that WS has an anonymous twitter account on which he follows people. Given how many people get into trouble over who they follow, what they retweet etc, I really dont see why any public figure is on it in their own persona.