HRA/GIDS admit purpose of blockers is to progress to cross-sex hormones

[Fallingirl]

Just seen this from Michael Biggs and TransgenderTrend.

www.transgendertrend.com/health-research-authority-puberty-blockers-commit-children-permanent-physical-transition/

It's just mindboggling this has been allowed to happen. Massive, massive, wholesale failure of government and every institution involved by their own policies.

Fuck.

Horrifying. This is a massive human rights abuse.

Paper copies of all these reports must be kept safe - it's so easy to alter digital reports. It's so easy to lose digital reports, as we know from the equality impact assessments that go walkies.

Bloody hell.

Frightening

Absolutely appalling.

No longer can it be claimed that puberty blockers simply give a ‘breathing space’ for youth to consider their options.

I’m sure the meta study concluded that between 66-89% of youth desisted, and that the intensity of dysphoria didn’t predict distance. The report says the first ethics committee was too cautious in their refusal. They were concerned about the 80% desistance. The investigators dismiss this as the selected cohort were persistent, so wouldn’t change their mind.

Appalling.

This article reveals the craven disregard of children's human right at the basis of this ideology. It will be remembered as a mad, mad cult, and this article is a landmark point in its unravelling.
Well done to the Professor.

And again...

Wrong side of history my arse!

I'm glad TT have picked up on this.

such that the suppression of puberty would allow subsequent cross-sex hormone treatment without the need to surgically reverse or otherwise mask the unwanted physical effects of puberty in the birth gender

This is the HRA actually endorsing the extremist genderism "passability" argument. For children at an early Tanner stage. Children.

Lang it’s like the HRA have said the words but haven’t quite comprehended the implication of them.

The full report is an eye watering read. It sounds like a lot of disclaimers being hastily put in place for when people realise what they’ve been told is false and start to push back at the harm being done to them.

Lang it’s like the HRA have said the words but haven’t quite comprehended the implication of them.

The inevitable result of the wholesale abandoning of safeguarding frameworks, I'm afraid. Institutional blindness to abuse.

This damage will take decades to repair - it goes much wider than GIDS.

Totally shocking, yet we already knew. This is a record of it though.

Do you think they want a “passing” cohort as some kind of proof that if only they can get people to pass, their mental health will be normal too? So many of them seem to have this oddly strong conviction that the high suicide rates are not caused by concurrent mental illness perhaps created by whatever situation created the dysphoria, but are wholly due to the bullying from society?

Anyway, thanks again to TT. The more information that comes out, the more this looks like a tragedy being played out. I was about to write that I hope that’s cognitions bias, but I have children. There is no way they can understand what they are consenting to, and even if some manage to live contented lives, their fertility and possibly sexual pleasure has been removed and that can’t be right.

This is absolutely horrifying. How fucking dare they. They’ve fallen so far down the rabbit hole that living underground in a terrifying topsy-turvy warren has become the new norm. I cannot believe that a supposedly respectable NHS institution is experimenting on children, in plain sight, in 2019. Those poor, poor children. Poor girls. I wonder which is more likely to exacerbate suicidal thoughts - supportive, patient-centred care including long-term therapy which considers all potential reasons for the child’s desire to transition, or the alternative; widespread experimentation, removal of safeguarding frameworks, off-label dangerous drugs and the realisation that they have been sold a lie.

I really dislike the weaponisation of suicide rates and I wouldn’t normally draw the comparison but I don’t think it can be ignored as a possible outcome. I wish I could scoop up every child under bloody GIDS and keep them safe. They deserve better than this.

And let us also remember that so many of these 10 to 12 year old children are also autistic. It is generally recognised that children with autism have an emotional age/understanding a third less than that of their peers. In other words many if the children ‘consenting’ to this treatment have the emotional maturity of 6 to 8 year olds.

I cannot believe that a supposedly respectable NHS institution is experimenting on children, in plain sight, in 2019.

Yep. I'm not sure it's quite filtering through - the absolute enormity of what HRA has said here.

I find articles by TT very worrying and think we must be cautious about an article whose first sentence opens by describing the use of puberty blockers as an 'experiment'.

Puberty blockers are used to buy time for a person to reach a conclusion, as a consenting adult when they reach 18, if they wish to proceed with more long term hormone therapy.

To characterise the 'purpose' of puberty blockers as being to progress to other treatment is misleading.

Hypatia it is an experiment. Why else would GIDS submit a research (experimental) protocol to a research ethics committee for this? If you are concerned about TT partisanship then read the HRA report that says it is NOT for buying time.

Here you go Hypatia (‘study’ means experiment): www.hra.nhs.uk/about-us/governance/feedback-raising-concerns/investigation-study-early-pubertal-suppression-carefully-selected-group-adolescents-gender-identity-disorders/

Also, as I understand it, the drugs used to suppress puberty are not researched or licensed for that purpose. So it absolutely is an experimental treatment.

Puberty blockers are used to buy time for a person to reach a conclusion, as a consenting adult when they reach 18, if they wish to proceed with more long term hormone therapy.

Oh my goddess! At least read the frickin' article!

Michael Biggs is reporting on the HRA's investigation into GIDS.

The HRA has concluded that GIDS should stop telling patients and their parents that puberty blockers are used as a decision-making pause because their own study was based on persistence.

It would have reduced confusion if the purpose of the treatment had been described as being offered specifically to children demonstrating a strong and persistent gender identity dysphoria at an early stage in puberty, such that the suppression of puberty would allow subsequent cross-sex hormone treatment without the need to surgically reverse or otherwise mask the unwanted physical effects of puberty in the birth gender. The present study was not designed to investigate the implications on persistence or desistence of offering puberty suppression to a wider range of patients, it was limited to a group that had already demonstrated persistence and were actively requesting puberty blockers.

The HRA - not Michael Biggs, not TT - has asserted that puberty blockers are not prescribed by GIDs to "buy time" but to ensure future passability.

You can't use this argument any longer. It's a lie and it has always been a lie. The HRA has told GIDS to stop saying this because their own study frameworks contradict it.

This is, well I can’t find the words for what it is. These are physically healthy children, not terminally ill children who will die otherwise. Yesterday I was looking at pictures of what happens to a young woman when they have a fake penis created. It’s barbaric. Puberty blocking is sick and twisted enough, and it leads to that kind of butchery.

If the Nazis had done this 80 years ago people would rightly be calling it out for the despicable practice it is, but because it’s all in the name of transgenderism it’s not only allowed to continue, it’s being lorded by the likes of the BBC.

My step daughter is on testosterone. At 16. She will now be infertile and god knows what physical problems there will be.
The NHS is telling kids humans can change sex.

Fuck. Mrskeats I'm so sorry