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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

“A lot of people in Scotland are being radicalised against trans people; they call it peak trans-ing,”

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 12/10/2019 10:26

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The outgoing SNP women's convener has warned candidates for the role about how they will spend their time dealing with aggressive feminists. Some choice quotes:

the outgoing convener Fiona Robertson says a significant portion of her time in the post has been spent dealing with the “abusive behaviour” towards members who express “support for equalities”.

Speaking to The National, Robertson warned of “an anti-trans lobby” working “with the homophobic right in the USA”.
“A lot of people in Scotland are being radicalised against trans people; they call it peak trans-ing,” she said.
“These groups are well-organised and effective online, so the abuse they target at anyone who speaks up in support of trans people’s rights is grinding. As a disabled woman with fluctuating energy and depression, it was overwhelming, and it was important that people stepping forward understood how tough it can be.”

Six women are standing for the Women’s Convener role – which for the first time will now be separate from the Equalities Convener position.

^Colette Walker who hasn’t signed the pledge, told The National: “I support LGBT rights but there are real concerns that any male who wants to identify as female to enter female safe spaces, or positions reserved for females or female sports. If Out4Indy offer that reassurance I would be happy to sign.”
Walker is, however, the only candidate to have backed a Women’s Pledge.^
The commitment, backed by Cherry, says “women have the right to maintain their sex-based protections as set out in the Equality Act 2010.”

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BetsyM00 · 12/10/2019 11:05

So, six candidates for the women's convener position and only one has seen fit to sign a pledge for women's rights. Says it all really.

Apollo440 · 12/10/2019 11:09

By 'anti trans' she means have 'questions we can't answer so don't want you to ask'.

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 12/10/2019 11:13

Is peak transing radical? Or simply being willing to point out the Emperor is naked and causing enormous problems to vulnerable people.

Remember them, Fiona? Oh wait, no, you don't give a shit about actual vulnerable people at all.

WrathofSIxFootSIxElfKlop · 12/10/2019 11:27

Message for Colette Walker.

If you sign the Woman's Pledge to protect women and girls. I salute you.

Time to show our support with postcards.

terryleather · 12/10/2019 11:32

“A lot of people in Scotland are being radicalised against trans people; they call it peak trans-ing,” she said.

The big fat question that FR should have asked herself was why women are hitting peak trans.

Are there just huge swathes of women with nothing better to do, who just want to hate on trans people for the sake of it?

Or could it be that the vast vast majority were quite happy to support TAs until they saw what this actually means for women and girls and their rights?

I didn't need the far right or MN or anything else to reach peak trans - the trans privilege activists showed me who they were. And I believed them.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 12/10/2019 11:35

Oh, Fiona, dearie me.

So there's a women's convener now, that could be positive.

aliasundercover · 12/10/2019 11:50

There are six candidates for the role of Women’s Convener.

Five have signed a pledge supporting LGBTQIA+ rights.
One has signed a pledge supporting women’s rights.

It seems clear that five are not qualified for the role of WOMEN’S Convener.

terryleather · 12/10/2019 11:53

It seems clear that five are not qualified for the role of WOMEN’S Convener.

I'm sure they all identify as qualified...

ScrimshawTheSecond · 12/10/2019 11:55

Hm. Wonder if it's worth joining the SNP to vote for the woman's convener that stands for women ....

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 12/10/2019 11:57

If someone's primary commitment is to the LGBT then isn't that the job they should be applying for and not the one that's meant to be focused on women?

MockersthefeMANist · 12/10/2019 12:03

"Women Don't Have Willies" = "Radical."

Are we in the Star Trek Mirror Universe?

Ginkypig · 12/10/2019 12:12

Colette Walker who hasn’t signed the pledge, told The National: “I support LGBT rights but there are real concerns that any male who wants to identify as female to enter female safe spaces, or positions reserved for females or female sports. If Out4Indy offer that reassurance I would be happy to sign.

This^ although I'd add a few to that too.

I am Scottish, I'm not anti trans. I have an (adult) Schild who is trans and am bi and have gay and lesbian (and other identifying) friends and family so I am certainly not anti anyone. But I will not and never can support rules that destroy the rights and safety of women and their spaces. I can be both and no one can tell me I'm a bigot or anti because I don't fall over myself to erode one group to support another!

Ginkypig · 12/10/2019 12:15

And for anyone asking I would never be seen as radical anything.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 12/10/2019 12:16

The whole statement just sounds like she hasn't a single clue what she's talking about, honestly. You'd think a little research would be in order if you take on that job.

AnyOldPrion · 12/10/2019 12:38

So, six candidates for the women's convener position and only one has seen fit to sign a pledge for women's rights. Says it all really.

But... this does make it easy for SNP members who know what a woman is to know who to vote for.

Jaxhog · 12/10/2019 12:46

Are we in the Star Trek Mirror Universe?

Wouldn't this make a great theme for an episode!

HeyHeyThey · 12/10/2019 13:20

Definitely think Colette needs to know the strength of support this stance will get her. I'm sure I'll be able to find her email address online somewhere...

NotBadConsidering · 12/10/2019 13:46

Other terms for “peak-transing” if that is now deemed offensive on a long list of things:

• Eye opening
• Gradual realisation
• No longer just blindly accepting
• logically worked through
• won’t be cowed anymore by bullies

Substitute any of these terms (adjusted for grammar) any time you see the words “radicalised” or “peak-transed” and see how that works.

GrumpyGran8 · 12/10/2019 13:50

Hm. Wonder if it's worth joining the SNP to vote for the woman's convener that stands for women ....
Only conference delegates will get to vote on it. And, sadly, the people who have the means to spend a weekend away in Glasgow unlikely to be "Colettes" - poor, disadvantaged women with family responsibilities. Instead, there will be plenty of the young, woke and vocal, who will be voting on measures that affect everybody.
If the vote was extended to all members, I think Colette Walker would walk it - she's perfect for the job as far as I'm concerned.

littlbrowndog · 12/10/2019 14:54

Collette is stunning and brave. The real stunning and brave

Yeah most ordinary Scottish women just can’t get away for a weekend in Glasgow so will be the wokies

MockersthefeMANist · 12/10/2019 15:24

Are we in the Star Trek Mirror Universe? Wouldn't this make a great theme for an episode!

Phillippa Georgiou, now known as Trevor, steals a dylithium crystal to fashion it into the hardest dildo in the galaxy. Captain Picard meanwhile, cannot find a pair of tights in his size and complans to Star Fleet about erasing his existence.

The Intersectional Borg are having trouble with transborgs, 80s music fans who always liked robot dancing, and TERV Vulcan rebels attack Star Base 5....

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 12/10/2019 15:36

Wesley is still annoying, and is now changing his gender approximately every 29.5 hours (if he just did it daily that would make things too easy for the rest of the crew).

Birdsfoottrefoil · 12/10/2019 16:18

Yeah most ordinary Scottish women just can’t get away for a weekend in Glasgow

They would be disappointed if they went to Glasgow looking for the SNP conference.

Pam2419 · 12/10/2019 16:21

Hats off to Joan McAlpine and Joanna Cherry for forcing the SNP to confront the trans assault on women’s rights. Ironic to see self-defence referred to as anti-trans.

The only political party in the UK which is having a real debate. Follow @wingsscotland on Twitter, who has been a stalwart in fighting for women’s rights and ensuring the SNP faithful know where the battle lines are.

Michelleoftheresistance · 12/10/2019 16:38

Women concerned about their rights = radical and abusive.

Yeah right. Keep trying, love.