question about mermaids ad on youtube

[skql]

is that ad targeting for uk domestic or worldwide?

[OhHolyJesus]

I thought you had to be 19 for top surgery, god what is happening?!

Right so we complain - Charity Commission and advertising standards and wrote you tube. They can't get away with this.

[TheProdigalKittensReturn]

Right now YT is showing me adds for Grammarly and for soap. Apparently it's showing children ads designed to groom them into signing up for surgical mutilation. Why is that allowed?

[DuMondeB]

Private surgeons will do double mastectomy at 17 in the U.K.
Polish/Turkish cosmetic surgeons will do younger.
Some cosmetic surgeons who do breast augmentation/reduction will do ‘top’ on the down low, they don’t advertise it, news travels via word of mouth. No diagnosis of gender dysphoria necessary.

NHS wait times make 19 the minimum, that will extend as the masses of girls recently referred to gender services travel through the system.

Not many NHS surgeons offer trans surgeries, and it’s not an area that’s easy to recruit professionals to, unsurprisingly.

[SirVixofVixHall]

She is not in the UK. I thought she was still 16, but think she may have just turned 17.
DH and I both cried. It is so distressing.

[SirVixofVixHall]

DuMondeB that is heartbreaking, I feel so sorry for girls now.

[DuMondeB]

Aw, Vix. 😢

We’re taking the track that we would no more agree to a minor having breast removal than we would agree to a minor having breast implants. We’ve got some years before it becomes a viable option, so hopefully she will weather the gender storm. She’s not even actually identifying AS a boy, just wants to look like one.

[RiotAndAlarum]

If that is the ad, it's vile.

"I couldn't be mean in school..." WHAT THE FUCK, MERMAIDS?! THERE ARE CHILDREN WHO WANT TO BE NICE!

Gah.
Then all the "I felt lost. I was made fun of. People laughed at me...."

That's just bullying, and it seems pretty damn external to the child. Not an inner essence, not a deeply held self identification. It's the same old listening to other people tell you who you are. And Mermaids is telling kids "who they are". Not to mention this is based on incredibly flimsy "evidence"... in fact, it's hard to imagine how there could be more false positives than from these symptoms. And the consequences of these false positives are so serious.

[TheProdigalKittensReturn]

It's an attempt to recruit all the vulnerable, unhappy kids and convince them that transition is the solution to their problems.

[Thingybob]

"I couldn't be mean in school..."

Or are they saying "I couldn't be me in school"?

[lionheart]

Then there is this:

TransgenderTrend
@Transgendertrd

'It has come to our attention that someone has bought the website address transgendertrend.co.uk and redirected it to the Mermaids website. We are very concerned that this misrepresents our organisation and will mislead parents and young people seeking help.'

[Doyoumind]

Ads will be targeted based both on content relevant to the advertiser's intended audience and profile of the user.

[LangCleg]

Right now YT is showing me adds for Grammarly and for soap. Apparently it's showing children ads designed to groom them into signing up for surgical mutilation. Why is that allowed?

Yes, that's my question. (And I always get bloody Grammarly.)

Also DuMonde.

[SirVixofVixHall]

DuMondeB Who would want to be a girl in this culture ? I have dds , I fear for them.

[Sunkisses]

If Mermaids were genuine about supporting families, they would target the adverts at the parents. Instead they are choosing to target adverts at young kids watching Minecraft films on YouTube (that's the last time my DD watches Minecraft films on YouTube). They are trying to recruit

[Datun]

That ad is unbelievably manipulative.

The kid gets bullied in school, but they change their name, call themselves trans and the bullying stops???

It's the exact opposite of what mermaids tells us actually happens. That trans children are the most marginalised and bullied on the planet.

The kid says my mum says we wouldn't have got to this stage if it hadn't been for mermaids.

The unwitting and constant cock ups channeling their inner Gerald Ratner, is breathtaking.

[Coffeeandchocolate9]

That's just bullying, and it seems pretty damn external to the child. Not an inner essence, not a deeply held self identification. It's the same old listening to other people tell you who you are

But that's the story behind so many trans people. Bullying and abuse when developing self-identify leads to gender dysphoria. Those people need therapy not double mastectomies

[Ereshkigal]

And the not-so-subtle suggestion of suicidal ideation, in the countdown clock where Ethan decides if Ethan 'wants to continue'.

I missed that on the first viewing but yes, of course FFS.

[RiotAndAlarum]

"I couldn't be mean in school..."

Or are they saying "I couldn't be me in school"?

Oh, maybe! The subtitles were clearly auto-generated, not real ones.

That's just bullying, and it seems pretty damn external to the child. Not an inner essence, not a deeply held self identification. It's the same old listening to other people tell you who you are

But that's the story behind so many trans people. Bullying and abuse when developing self-identify leads to gender dysphoria. Those people need therapy not double mastectomies

Yes, I agree. Bullying and abuse (which are external) aren't revealing something intrinsic and eternal; more often than not, bullying and abuse lead to harmful distortions in young and/or fragile egoes. This dynamic applies to many, many children, and if we try to help them withstand negative thoughts (and prevent them from internalising those negative thoughts), how would we know that it is "obviously different" in a few cases? We don't. Therefore, yes, it makes far better sense, and is far more humane, to work on repelling the negative voices (or even "creating your inner cheerleader") before attempting to question identity.

[Qcng]

Mermaids are so dangerous.

[DickKerrLadies]

Was it CiN or comic relief that was funding them?

[DickKerrLadies]

Neither! It was big lottery fund

(thanks google)

[Imnobody4]

www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2019-06-05.260597.h&s=Women+and+Equalities#g260597.q0
David Davies: To ask the Minister for Women and Equalities, whether
Government funding of Mermaids UK will be reviewed.
Apparently they're not receiving money from recent grant anymore.

[SirVixofVixHall]

Creepier still, I just went onto youtube to look through some Magdalen videos as I wanted to send a couple to a friend. The opening ad was that mermaids one.

[SirVixofVixHall]

Note the mermaids logo under Magdalen.

[NeurotrashWarrior]