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The Detransition Advocacy Network. The first organisation to support women who have stopped transitioning.

62 replies

DJLippy · 04/10/2019 21:00

Exciting developments!

We are a group of detransitioners and desisters who have either decided not to transition or have stopped transitioning. Currently, there are no organized places for us to go for support.

We've started an advocacy charity to support people like us. Our aims (for now) are simple and will be built open over the next few weeks.

  • Build a support network.
  • Connect detransitioners.
  • Record our numbers.
  • Provide resources from professionals covering legal and medical advice.

We are officially launching our charity in Manchester on the 30th November.

You can follow us on Twitter @DetransAdNet

www.patreon.com/detransadvocacynetwork

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RainbowsAndGlitterAndUnicorns · 06/10/2019 02:36

Good luck

Nappyvalley15 · 06/10/2019 07:16

I wish you all well. I find it so sad how badly let down you have all been. Hopefully this network will play a role is preventing more vulnerable young people being caught up in this ideology.

StoatofDisarray · 06/10/2019 07:43

Too far away for me, but happy to support on Patreon. Well done for setting this up. Like many other women, I would probably have tried to transition as a lonely, sexually-abused ten year old girl. Luckily for me, it was the 1970s, and that wasn't possible. As a grown woman I now know that it's the system (patriarchy) that's wrong not my body.

NeurotrashWarrior · 06/10/2019 09:25

A certain someone is comparing Charlie to Andrew Wakefield on twitter. The thinking processes are astounding.

littlbrowndog · 06/10/2019 09:34

Charlie getting piled on on twitter they are trawling through her timeline

Bullying idiots

Go Charlie

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 06/10/2019 09:37

Does it support men too?

Good luck - these voices need to be heard - especially kids pondering this route.

It’s like a cult isn’t it?

TemporaryPermanent · 06/10/2019 09:47

It's nice to see the message 'no such thing as a boy brain or a girl brain' in the mail on sunday to be honest, whatever the context. An awful lot of 'nonpolitical' people raise their children as if there were such things.

Lolasaurous · 07/10/2019 04:07

Excellent

startswithj · 09/10/2019 21:17

The Detransition Advocacy Network was established to support all detransitioners, regardless of sex.

PencilsInSpace · 09/10/2019 22:06

Is there a way to give one-off donations?

TemporaryPermanent · 09/10/2019 23:20

@PencilsInSpace you could buy a donation ticket to the event? Or I think Patreon take one off donations as well as regular stipends.

Goannaforanna · 10/10/2019 00:08

I think it would be worth some academic researchers connecting with this group to undertake some formal research.

AspieTransMum2 · 13/10/2019 15:36

I'm the mother of a 26 year old daughter who has Aspergers and is on the waiting list to see a Consultant in the UK with a view to transitioning gender. I do not have a problem with gender transition per se, I do, however, have a problem when my 'child' is being allowed and encouraged to go down this path by professionals who are supposed to have her best interests at heart but are doing nothing to help her understand why she dislikes her gender so much. She is also scared of socialising yet feels desperately lonely and I really can't help but think marginalising herself even more is going to make socialising any easier for herself. I'm really not trying to control this, just help my beloved daughter but I'm being told to 'back off' by anyone who is allegedly supporting her.

I was delighted to read of The Detransition Advocacy Network in the UK and deeply saddened to think that this is needed. If anyone knows how to contact Charlie Evans, and or The Network. please could they pass on my details to them as I would love to find out more. I need to speak to others in my position. Many thanks.

Michelleoftheresistance · 13/10/2019 15:59

Brilliant. Will support any way I can - with no political will, purely because this is a group of suffering and vulnerable people who deserve all the help society can give them, who have just cause to be hurt and angry and want answers, and should not have to hide or deal with TRA bile just because their experiences are 'inconvenient' to the trans community narrative.

Smallblanket · 13/10/2019 16:35

AspieTransMum

I am in the same position with my Aspie DD age 21. And have a very similar attitude to you. My biggest problem is on what planet is it seen to be a good thing that such a vulnerable disadvantaged group ( young people with autism and comorbid mental health problems) should undergo surgical and chemical "correction", with unknown long term consequences.

And I too am very worried that professionals at the gender clinics have no choice but to encourage them down this route, or even worse blindly believe there is no alternative.

AllTheNameAreTakenEvenThisOne · 13/10/2019 16:43

@AspieTransMum2 you can contact Charlie on Twitter at @charlie_sci

Or the Detransition Advocacy Network at @DetransAdNet

I think Charlie's been innundated though, so don't be disparaged if she doesn't reply immediately.

There's a message on @DetransAdNet saying:
Thank you for reaching out to us, and please be patient if we don't reply to your DM's / email (though feel free to send your message again if you don't hear from us before then)
and I think I saw similar on her personal account too.

Aspley · 13/10/2019 18:57

Stonewall have plenty of cash. Such a shame they leave detransitioners in the cold.

truthisarevolutionaryact · 13/10/2019 19:03

AspieTransMum2
Just in case you're not already aware, Transgender Trend is a very good support group for parents: www.transgendertrend.com/

AspieTransMum2 · 13/10/2019 19:09

Thanks Allthenames...
I was looking for a way, other than Twitter, which I don't use to contact Charlie but maybe what I really need is to talk with other mums of older autistic people who want to or have transitioned (?) I truly believe that it's help with the difficulties of autism that causes so many problems for these vulnerable people. Once that has been addressed, if they still want to transition then I'm happy to support!

I wonder if anyone is talking with The National Autistic Society about this - although I must admit we didn't find them particularly helpful in our area...

AllTheNameAreTakenEvenThisOne · 13/10/2019 19:14

As far as I know NAS are woke, I think. (Would love to be proved wrong, but this was my impression).

NonnyMouse1337 · 13/10/2019 19:19

I think all of the major autism organisations and various Facebook groups etc have bought into the gender ideology and are very pro trans, non-binary and queer identities.
Since autistic people are very likely to be into these sort of identities, it's very difficult to find openly gender critical groups.

I push a lot of gender critical points in a subtle manner in the autism groups I am in when I can but it feels like a lost cause at times. Confused
I hope you find like minded support for parents dealing with this sort of situation.

joyfullittlehippo · 13/10/2019 19:19

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AspieTransMum2 · 14/10/2019 16:53

Thanks for reaching out Smallblanket - I can only say that I am very grateful that the waiting list is so long (in my area at least). My 'son' (who insists on being referred to in the masculine even though, biologically is still female) has been told it's 18 months by his GP but believes that according to the internet it's more like 3 years.

I'm hoping that this will give 'him' time to really think things through.
I was saddened to read in the Detransition Advocacy Network news article:
news.ntd.com/hundreds-of-young-trans-people-seeking-help-to-reverse-transition-says-detransitioned-woman_388928
(where I first heard of them) that so many, especially ftm who are on the spectrum, who go through these procedures are still suffering from dysphoria and are no happier than before they went through it all. I must admit that I've had far too many sleepless nights worrying about the consequences of all this on my 'child' and learning all this about detransitioning isn't helping, even though I do feel it's better to know than not know! This is not easy to go through as a parent and if you would like to private message me I'd be happy to chat...