BBC Bitesize is teaching children being a lesbian is about gender

[stumbledin]

Not sure of the age of KS3 but this is the BBC stepping in to explain sexuality.

They even have a test to tells you you are wrong if you dont agree with gender being about sexuality.

And they have support links to LGB++++++++++ groups but nothing for young people who are heterosexual, especailly young women are being pressurised by pornified boys and men

www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/topics/zhvbt39/articles/z6smbdm

the bbc are full of it.

i just got a bbc news flash about a kid coming out as non binary, and next week radio four drama 'just a woman' will be about trans struggles (with special thanks to mermaids).

Thanks Old Crone I've complained to BBC and ranted too. Well I'm sure we both wrote finely-crafted, well-honed arguments, although mine did contain the work Bollocks.

Imagine you're a 14 year old girl.

You've begun to realise in the last year or so that you are sexually attracted to women's bodies, and sexually turned off by men's bodies.

You're also aware of a whole load of other things. That there's a name for what you feel - lesbian (or in the mouths of some of the unkind kids in school "lezzer"). You know that some people are okay with that, but others aren't. Some people are so "not okay" that they might beat you and your girlfriend up - you saw the front page news coverage of the two lesbians on the bus. You know that parts of society are repulsed by your sexuality, and also (because the boys in your class get a lot of fun waving mobile phones with porn videos under your nose) that significant numbers of men fetishise your sexuality and think it's all a big performance especially for them.

So, as if adolescence wasn't confusing enough (and it's pretty damn confusing, even for your straight friends), you know it's a hundred times worse because on a bad day your sexuality is variously seen as abnormal, unnatural, wrong, something to be beaten out of you, or something that exists for the entertainment of men.

And now the BBC - the fucking BBC, with the massive amount of cultural capital and authority they carry just in virtue of history - comes along and tells you "lesbians are same gender attracted", so your lesbianism must include penis - the thing you know you're not attracted to - or you're doing it wrong.

Or even worse (because you note all the stuff conflating crude sexist stereotypes and gender identity, and you also note that "straight" people seem to still be allowed to discriminate on the basis of genital arrangement without being told they're bigoted) you decide the only way you're allowed to be exclusively attracted to women (the biological, cunt-owning kind) is to announce you're in fact a "straight transman."

Fuck that shit, BBC.

Barbara, perfectly put. The trans push is the essence of homophobia. It's an old school homophobe's fantasy with all sorts of extra unexpected kicks.

Janice Turner on this, if anyone can do a share token please do, I can't.

I managed to do a full 2000 character rant about the "gender" section. Ending with this:

“Society expects us to act a certain way based on our sex.” In what way? If society expects that, maybe society needs to change. I thought it had, but maybe not at the BBC.

Can I just make a suggestion about complaints? Rants are cathartic but concise and to the point makes it harder for the respondent to avoid the question.

I have made a few rants in my time and normally they pick up on some obscure passing comment and respond to that instead. Or provide a generic ‘I am sorry you feel that way. ’ reply.

Interestingly though a recent response published on the BBC website was about the ‘range of flags’ at the BBC proms (I saw the last night of the proms so I presume it was about all the rainbow flags). The response was a very vague about ‘artistic direction’.

I agree about rants. I felt like ranting but I put together a coherent argument instead (apart from one swear word).
Ranting can work against us, and we don't need to rant as the transgender ideology is so illogical, it's easily taken apart.

I felt like ranting but I put together a coherent argument instead

I think my rant was quite coherently argued. I wrote it last night but left it until this morning before sending, and read it through and made a few edits. It is possible to be quite direct but also have a coherent and rational argument. In terms of style it was quite a rant, but I think my argument was well-reasoned. I also repeated myself a bit - sexism was mentioned several times, as was the absurd regressive nature of their statements.

The problem is, by being too polite, it's sometimes hard to get across your message forcefully enough and you can end up skirting round the issues rather than addressing them properly. But maybe that's something I need to work on.

We may be a woman, but identify with the outlook and social norms of men.

When we feel this way, we are transgender.

WTAF is this fuckery?

Jeez what sexist bollocks is this? And love the way heterosexual people are allowed to exclude the sex they are not attracted too but homosexuals are not. WTAF! Why is the Gay community not speaking out against this nonsense in bigger numbers. I know there are lots of lesbians who are but hardly any gay men. This type of transgender ideology is offensive to almost every group apart from itself.

Okay this is now severely annoying me.

I’ve spent the morning servicing a not car minded man’s vehicle. His kids were talking to me about why a girl was fixing a car because boys like cars. I said woman and girls can fix cars and enjoy it too.
And the 12 year old, who knows I like fantasy films and model making, asked if I thought I was a boy. I said no and she said her school had said girls who liked boy things were boys and said it was safe for me to say so. I said no, I’m a girl, I have a boyfriend and don’t want to be a boy. Her confusion was palpable. Felt sorry for her but this seems to be what they are told these days. Pure sexist twaddle

Sod this. I'm going to have to put my head above the parapet and send some info to my children's schools. At least the primary. Secondary is new to us and I'm probably too nervous to approach them yet. Which in itself is ridiculous.

Gender is cultural is the wrong answer

"Gender is psychological" is an obfuscating way of saying women act ladylike because they have ladybrains

12yr old dd just read that. She shaves her head, wears boys clothes at all times including the school uniform and likes archery and rugby. Her opinion? Hysterical laughter. She is vaguely amused that at 12yrs old, she has better critical thinking skills than a supposed adult. She says it's probably written by - and I quote - "a wazzock with blue hair and a woke Instagram account". Why can my preteen see it but the BBC can't?

I complained - utter jizz

And the 12 year old, who knows I like fantasy films and model making, asked if I thought I was a boy. I said no and she said her school had said girls who liked boy things were boys and said it was safe for me to say so. I said no, I’m a girl, I have a boyfriend and don’t want to be a boy. Her confusion was palpable. Felt sorry for her but this seems to be what they are told these days. Pure sexist twaddle

That is terrifying.

I am incredibly lucky in that DS is a contrarian little bugger (it's a family trait!) But a lot of kids, most in fact, are very much wedded to "teacher said it so it must be true."

The Radio drama that Helmet mentioned above is from 2014 - you can listen to it now: www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04v2ynx

I have just been listening to the first episode, which asserts that puberty blockers are fully reversible, and when the consultant is asked about whether they will affect Amy's fertility, she replies "that's a good question - like all drugs, there are pros and cons".

From the credits: This affectionate drama was inspired by real life experiences.

Thanks to Susie Green and the parents at Mermaids and the Tavistock Clinic.

What do they mean by mostly attracted.. surely if you are gay you are only attracted to those of the same sex, and the same goes for lesbians. What the fuck does mostly mean? If you like both then you’re bisexual fs.

Everything BarbaraStrozzi said.

And just that internal shudder you get when you see grooming going on in plain sight and it's by a nationally respected institution.

I once wanted to write in to Jim'll Fix It when I was a child and was outraged when my dad said "NO. Under no circumstances. That man is a pervert plain as day and the BBC is bigging him up. Pick another show. An ITV one." And no matter how much I wheedled and begged, he wouldn't relent.

I now see exactly how he felt.

"Being transgender, however, is natural."

Well, that is highly dependent what you mean by transgender and what you mean by natural.

"You should take time to work through your feelings and find what is right for you."

You should? I never gave it an iota of a thought.

"and that people can identify with a gender that is different to their sex"

So sex is gender now or what? Just above you called sex physical and gender psychological. Unless of course gender is nothing but bs stereotypes. Hmmmm. Does this mean everyone who rejects society's view of what one should be given one's sex is transgender? I guess every masculine woman and feminine man are transgender then, huh BBC?

Sneaky bastards.

Many people feel uncomfortable with the idea that there are other sexualities besides being straight and that people can identify with a gender that is different to their sex.

I am 100% onboard with sexuallities other than straight, and I suspect most other Brits are too (and certainly most Gc women). I acknowledge that there are people who "identify" with gender. What I do not acknowledge is that having genderfeels changes your sex, or entitles you to use spaces or services designated for the sex which you are not. I would also gently suggest that perhaps you do a little soul searching as to what exactly you think you're identifying with, since in every case so far when I've asked the person has basically vomited up a selection of sexist stereotypes right out of the 1950s at me.

Bing transgender is as natural as being anorexic. It's a mental health issue (and for those who are going to jump on me saying that it's been removed from the DSM, if it isn't a mental health condition, it doesn't need treatment of any kind).

Share token for the Times article.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cult-of-gender-identity-is-harming-children-pjvbkjzxq?shareToken=28cfb823267e23c7a34c72a3fca8ab16

They give ‘bisexual’, ‘asexual’, even ‘pansexual’, so why no mention of the words ‘heterosexual’ and ‘homosexual’?