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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Male nurse abuses a vulnerable woman’s body with impunity

76 replies

GCAcademic · 31/08/2019 20:51

Absolutely horrified at this story:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7413803/Male-nurse-58-treated-patients-vagina-like-puppet-staff-KEEPS-hospital-job.html

Horrified, first that he did it. Then that he appears to have used his sexual orientation to absolve himself of wrong-doing. Third, that his superiors seem to think he is fit to carry on working with patients. How the fuck has he not been struck off?

Fuck this shit. I’m furious. I don’t care if you’re gay, wearing lipstick with your beard, or whatever new form of male “oppression” these misogynists are going to come up with next. I don’t want a single unknown MALE near me when I’m sick, vulnerable, naked, etc. Even being accompanied by other professionals doesn’t seem to stop their gross entitlement, hatred for women, and disrespect for our bodies.

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MyLeftArm · 01/09/2019 21:29

Gay men are often the worst males for anti-female behaviour.

So, he wasn't sexually motivated...and that makes it okay?
Some Hetero males actually rape other men in prison, as a way of humiliating them and showing them "who's in charge here". Is that okay then, since they don't actually fancy their victim?

Tyrotoxicity · 01/09/2019 21:34

It’s like the violation of a vulnerable woman’s body is only actually worth bothering about if the perpetrator gets off on it.

I need to have a massive rant about fucking men imposing their fucking socially constructed truth on us, but it's going to be less than coherent so I'm going to keep it in my head for now.

Because it is the truth, isn't it? Human rights are a bedtime story they're telling us to soothe us into compliance. But the truth of the world that they have made is: no, the violation of our bodies isn't worth bothering about. Because that is what our bodies are for, in the world that they have built. They simply disagree over the conditions in which the violation of our bodies is permissible.

They reject the basic premise that violation of our bodies is never permissible.

Gingernaut · 01/09/2019 22:10

@managedmis, because he's gay and, he offered that as proof that the incident wasn't sexually motivated

failingatlife · 01/09/2019 23:40

I can't understand the NMC here. I am a registered hcp and it would be a breach of several of the standards we must adhere too. I'm pretty sure he would be struck off the HCPC register for this so why not the NMC register? At uni we spent a lecture looking at disciplinary proceedings and people lost their registration for much less than this.

As usual women are seen as body parts not actual people. Makes me so angry 😠

LatteLove · 01/09/2019 23:48

I can’t stop thinking about that poor woman. Treated so cruelly and disrespectfully. Imagine that was your mum or family member. It’s just awful :(

Also for the other colleagues who were horrified and reported it. They must be wondering why they fucking bothered.

LatteLove · 01/09/2019 23:53

I agree with everything you have said @Tyrotoxicity

This man sexually abused that poor woman. Her genitalia were violated. His motivation should not be relevant

GemmeFatale · 02/09/2019 18:38

Who do we write in protest to? NMC or the hospital itself?

Coldhandscoldheart · 04/09/2019 11:35

I don’t know how to link a tweet here, but nmc have tweeted that ‘procedures are ongoing’.
I’m assuming that would mean they’re looking into the decision with a view to changing it.

3mks · 04/09/2019 11:45

Even if they are he should have been suspended until they reached a conclusion.

JohnnyMcGrathSaysFuckOff · 04/09/2019 13:57

See, a fortnight ago there was a thread asking whether Adam kay's memoir about being an ob/gyn was misogynistic.

There were scads of outraged HCPs lining up to tell us how it was fine to talk about women really disrespectfully - eg calling obstetrics cunts and runts - was just fine because it was gallows humour and anyhow they were all under pressure and anyhow it was only really how they do all think about us, so shuddup and be grateful.

It didn't matter bc in fact, apart from a few bad apples, even HCP who slagged women off in grossly misogynistic terms in private - or in print, whatevs - were deeply empathetic and professional in person.

Yeah fucking right. You might think it's a massive stretch to connect this grotesque abuse to a respectable dr like Kay. I don't. I think it is all part of a wider toxic picture of seeing women as subaltern, stupid, voiceless. I think it pervades women's healthcare in all kinds of tiny ways, from the mockery of birth plans to the difficulty women have in getting coils out to the misrecognition of differential symptoms of heart attacks.

That is the real answer this guy is still practising. Do you think he could have done puppetry with an upper middle class male patient's penis and still be in work? Please........

ImNotYourGranny · 04/09/2019 14:09

'When delivering routine personal care of an intimate personal nature you must be chaperoned.'

Ridiculous. He's already shown that he doesn't care if he's being watched, he'll still sexually assault vulnerable women.

GCAcademic · 04/09/2019 21:01

Just in case anyone is in any doubt about the mindset of some of our mtf trans visitors, here is a PM I received about this story:

From: sarasmartie
To: GCAcademic
Re: News link
5 hours ago
The news link you posted was pretty amusing

Thank you for sharing

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2BthatUnnoticed · 04/09/2019 22:43

That’s awful OP Shock could it have just been a man and not a trans person? Not being goady, just curious.

ScrimshawTheSecond · 04/09/2019 22:44

The tweet from NMC has replies that suggest there may be wider issues within the Royal Gwent Hospital: twitter.com/nmcnews/status/1168853726116950016

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 04/09/2019 22:48

So a man can say anything and get away with a crime against a woman?

I’m gay
I’m trans
I’m a ‘woman’
I fell over
So there we were having a nice cup of tea then, oops, not sure how that happened, I strangled her...

BarbaraStrozzi · 04/09/2019 22:54

2b - the poster who sent the pm started another thread tonight to talk about their botched surgery, so according to their own account (which might be true, might be a pile of shite) is trans.

The thread in question is weird but worth it for the memorable line more socks than the Van Trapp's family Christmas mantlepiece.

NotTonightJosepheen · 05/09/2019 10:39

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Paraballa · 05/09/2019 11:01

I feel this needs some coordinated action to challenge both the NMC decision and the police decision re the charge. Where can we start?

philmccavity · 05/09/2019 21:40

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GCAcademic · 05/09/2019 21:50

Another PM from our trans friend:

From:
philmccavity
To:
GCAcademic
Subject:
Thank you
Date:
Thu 05-Sep-19 21:31:11
Thank you for raising awareness William Kennedy is kind of a hero of mine and is a good role model

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bd67th · 05/09/2019 22:00

"philmccavity" what a very... autogynaephilic... choice of name. A bad pun that mischaracterises female sexual enjoyment as being predominantly from being penetrated.

neonglow · 05/09/2019 22:23

Every time there is a thread about being uncomfortable with male HCPs in intimate scenarios (for example a vaginal examination) there are always posts insisting healthcare workers are professional and doing their job so it’s silly to not want to be treated by men, or that in situations such as labour you often don’t get a choice and should be grateful to those on hand. Whilst I appreciate female HCPs can also practice in ways influenced by the paternal and patriarchal healthcare system we have, every time you see these kinds of stories it’s always male HCPs with access to women’s bodies who cause these situations.

This is just another story that makes me feel very very uncomfortable about being treated by male HCPs. It’s acceptable to want female-only separate spaces from men in all other vulnerable or undignified situations (toilets, changing rooms, shared showers) yet women are often scoffed at for wanting it in healthcare.

2BthatUnnoticed · 05/09/2019 23:33

Thanks Barbara, now I see.

GC it’s awful that you are getting these messages, hope HQ have banned them now.

zoklet · 05/09/2019 23:42

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