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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I made a gross and vile comment, please can someone explain why I was gross and vile?

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Mammatino · 29/08/2019 08:00

Hi, am a bit nonplussed. I've commented on a current post about the trend for vcso girls. It's young girls who are very minimal make up, beachy and save the planet types. (ish). My comment was that I thought it was a better trend than the current trend for overblown, over made up, trashy sex dolls that many young girls seem to follow. Was I vile and gross because it sounded like I was attacking a young woman's right to choose? When teens are finding an identity I would be much happier with minimum make up, planet savers, photographing sunsets than girls just highlighting (through make up and surgery) their breasts, bums and big lips. I just want to know what I've done that is gross and vile, incase it is a lack of education on my part. I've posted on feminist chat as I think it's a bit of a female identity thread and that's where I've crossed boundaries? Maybe the posters I offended like this look and I've been personal calling them trash bags (so not well thought out on my part). The thread is still active in current aibu if you want to check my context and I have posted there asking why.

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bunslinger · 01/09/2019 09:43

If someone who sexually abuses a minor does so knowing they are a child, they are probably a paedophile. If they do it thinking that their victim is an adult, they are probably not a paedophile. It's an abhorrent crime in either case.

MargueritaBlue · 01/09/2019 09:45

Not sure what point you are making. A 16 year old is not a child.

Mumsnet is obsessed by extended childhood. Children acquire legal rights and responsibilities at various ages through life. At 16 one can leave school, leave home and get married (in Scotland without parental permission) I was still at school when several of my peers were already married.

MargueritaBlue · 01/09/2019 09:45

To be clear my reply was to Sarah. I don't think a 16 year old is a child.

SarahTancredi · 01/09/2019 09:51

The point is it's the age old "defence" isn't.

Never mind that out of the 750 school girls in their uniform they ogle daily none of which could be 16 because well then they would be in the 6th firm then and they wear office wear not uniform .....

Many jobs have spotting people and Iding people who are underage as a huge part of them. Yet despite spending 35 hours a week making sure you dont break the law we are also supposed to believe men cant spot a 14 year old Hmm

HalloumiGus · 01/09/2019 09:53

I don't like the word trashy and your wording wasn't appropriate for the age of girls being discussed.

That said I have seen late teens / early twenties with fillers in lips or that overdone lipstick and they literally look like inflatable sex doll mouths. To me it's just more normalising of porn culture and I detest it. I don't make assumptions about their sexual behaviour (not my business) but I do look at them and feel sorry for them if I'm honest. What they see as just a sexy trend I see as them swallowing misogynistic ideas about beauty - that they are literally a walking variety of orifices to be filled.

Maybe I'm just an old gimmer.

CassianAndor · 01/09/2019 10:02

thinking their victim is an adult - oh, I think those men know exactly how old the girls they prey on are, and they take advantage of the fact that some girls are desperate to appear, be, older than they are and dress and act accordingly.

PeevedNiamh · 01/09/2019 10:09

I can see where you are coming from. My friends daughter has a profile pic in which she does actually resemble a sex doll facially. I find it unnerving. Still as a teenager I wore skirts so short if I lifted my arms you'd see my knickers, and lace tops so not really in a place to judge 😁

BertrandRussell · 01/09/2019 10:10

“She said she was 16. How was I to know?”

Ick Ick Ick Ick.

SarahTancredi · 01/09/2019 10:23

She said she was 16. How was I to know?

Given pubs and clubs ID anyone who looks under 25, the only under 16s in the work place would be work experience, they must go out of their way to avoid meeting people old enough. Chatting up groups of kids in skate parks or something.

Course they bloody know.

bunslinger · 01/09/2019 12:00

I think those men know exactly how old the girls they prey on are, and they take advantage of the fact that some girls are desperate to appear, be, older than they are and dress and act accordingly.

I agree this is a thing. I agree it's despicable. But it is not indicative of being a paedophile.

SarahTancredi · 01/09/2019 12:04

What else do you call someone who goes after underage girls then? Confused

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