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When FtM surgery goes wrong - Scott trying to raise awareness.

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FredaFrogspawn · 26/08/2019 10:02

This is so upsetting. Don’t open if you’re not prepared for very distressing image and content. But people should know.

mobile.twitter.com/ScottNew1972

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ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 26/08/2019 10:50

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wigglybluelines · 26/08/2019 10:51

Click link mobile.twitter.com/ScottNew1972

ConfessionsOfTeenageDramaQueen · 26/08/2019 13:15

This is a scandal - isn't the first rule of medicine Do No Harm? How is this being allowed???

LeftHandDown · 26/08/2019 14:27

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JellySlice · 26/08/2019 16:11

Scott has no doubt suffered as a consequence of the surgery, and I have compassion for that, but Scott needs to take responsibility for their own actions. It is not all the surgeon's fault.

Any woman can pee standing up if she uses a Shewee or PeeStyle. You don't need to abuse yourself to achieve that.

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 26/08/2019 16:37

Deletions are very instructive.

Someone really doesn't like trans people speaking out.

AllNaturalWoman · 26/08/2019 17:01

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BluebonicPlague · 26/08/2019 20:39

Interesting. I get a WOT (Web of Trust) red warning on that site for scam or phishing. The full WOT report gives no further information. Is that a genuine warning of scam or phishing, or is WOT woke beyond woke as well?

When FtM surgery goes wrong - Scott trying to raise awareness.
Voice0fReason · 26/08/2019 22:36

That is horrific. The surgeons who do this should be struck off. They have a duty to be honest with their patients. This surgery cannot be in anyone's best interests.

OneEndedStick · 27/08/2019 01:28

I honestly can't imagine caring how my partner pees. Really, what kind of person encourages someone they presumably love, to undergo major, medically unnecessary surgery, just to know they can take a piss standing up, even if it has to be via a tube of their own arm flesh?

It's looking a helluva lot like there are women who trek down the "transition"' (disguise-self-as-opposite-sex)
path, who are motivated by internalised lesbophobia, and in a few case a I've read about, that shame about being lesbian/being seen as lesbian, is actually their partner's. Sadly, this is only going to increase while our society has certain ideological movements ramping up the contempt for lesbians and the woke-as-fuck happily following suit.

TileFloors · 27/08/2019 07:12

It’s actually starting to be recognised as a form of domestic abuse: get your partner to transition, then leave them.

It’s a dark world out there, sometimes.

Pota2 · 27/08/2019 07:17

I feel very sorry for Scott. I also agree that the doctor who performed this should be struck off. It looks horrific and is no doubt very painful. I hope Scott sues them.
I also think that the way this surgery is presented is in very simple, positive terms, with no real appreciation of what it actually involves. A full mastectomy and having half your arm removed and made into a penis won’t make you a real man and it is likely to leave you with pain and a raft of other medical issues. You may wish you had been born a real man but you weren’t and the only way you can be truly happy is to make peace with what your body actually is, not what you wish it was.

TemporaryPermanent · 27/08/2019 07:27

One day medical transition won't exist any more.

Sadly it will probably be due to lack of functioning antibiotics and rationing of hormones, rather than because we are more accepting of all human bodies and less abusive of children.

It does make me think that there really is a LOT of spare money in developed societies though. Not that Scott is rich but that even the time and space to consifer developing surgical nightmares ideas like this is a function of prosperity.

Lamahaha · 27/08/2019 07:52

I just read Scott's website, the Wild Wild West of Phalloplasty. It's horrifying!

But particularly interesting I found were the comments. One women posted two very long GC comments with everything we know about the TRA cult, outspoken and as critical as you can get.

Scott thanked her for her comment after the first very long comment. Scott did not call her a transphobe, did not put her down, abuse her, did not silence her or delete her comment. She wrote a second long and very damning comment on the harm transgenderism does to women. This time, Scott merely asked her not to comment again, as she had said her peace (sic).

Notice the way a biological woman deals with dissent and criticism, compared to the way biological males deal with it. That's why I say hat off to Scott. I'm so sorry they had to go through this. But every girl considering surgery should read it.

Lamahaha · 27/08/2019 07:55

Interesting. I get a WOT (Web of Trust) red warning on that site for scam or phishing. The full WOT report gives no further information. Is that a genuine warning of scam or phishing, or is WOT woke beyond woke as well?

I did not get any warning. I accessed the site without a problem. My computer is protected.

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 27/08/2019 08:04

I also agree that the doctor who performed this should be struck off.

Yes, but there are many surgeons carrying out these surgeries, and they are part of a wider issue of extreme body modification via surgery. The cosmetic surgery industry more widely is full of cowboys preying on people's insecurities. Regulation of the sector, especially in the US, is poor to non-existent.

They have a duty to be honest with their patients. This surgery cannot be in anyone's best interests.

Honest would start with using direct language, not twee euphemisms like 'top surgery', something the whole ideology seems to be pathologically incapable of. And no, surgical interventions in what are ultimately mental health issues are not in anyone's best interest and have a dark and dubious history. Seemingly we never do learn from the past.

It’s actually starting to be recognised as a form of domestic abuse: get your partner to transition, then leave them.

I've heard this before and just cannot wrap my head round the idea at all. How could anyone be so cruel?

AnyOldPrion · 27/08/2019 08:22

Does anyone have a link to Scott’s website please? I can’t access Twitter.

Lamahaha · 27/08/2019 08:30

Here.
thetransgendertruth.wixsite.com/mysite/post/ftmbottom-phalloplasty-dream-realty-the-wild-wild-west-of-transgender-surgery

In my first post I made a mistake. It should read The Wild Wild West of Transgender Surgery, not of "Phalloplasty".

LangCleg · 27/08/2019 08:33

It’s actually starting to be recognised as a form of domestic abuse: get your partner to transition, then leave them.

WTF?

AnyOldPrion · 27/08/2019 08:45

Thanks Lamahaha

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/08/2019 08:46

I read that the other day. Utterly grim. I hadn't realised Scott was so old. As others have said, if a 45yo can be manipulated into this kind of thing, what chance do teenagers have?

medium.com/@mariacatt42/talking-about-talking-to-doctors-49778915ed4 This Medium article is interesting. Dialogue between two women who detransitioned about what happened when one of them went back to talk to the doctor who referred her for hormones and surgery. So glad she got out well before the phalloplasty stage. It makes abundantly clear that professional standards in this area in the US are abysmal.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 27/08/2019 09:27

thetransgendertruth.wixsite.com/mysite#

Hopefully that will work.

My heart goes out to Scott.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 27/08/2019 09:28

Sorry for repeating! Didn't get to the end of the thread. Doh!

FannyCann · 27/08/2019 09:35

A little bit of legal background regarding malpractice cases against "renowned" phalloplasty surgeon Curtis Crane.

4thwavenow.com/2019/08/26/catching-up-with-renowned-phalloplasty-surgeon-dr-curtis-crane/

I'm sure we have all read of mad cases from the USA where people have been awarded huge sums of compensation for something that seems out of all proportion common sense and we think of America as a litigious society. But it seems far from simple pinning down these slippery surgeons, though heaven knows what their malpractice insurance fees are. But those insurers are skilled at making the cases go away. And this suggests that plaintiffs will be under strong financial pressure to accept a settlement early, of what would appear to be likely to be a comparatively modest sum after costs have been deducted.
Furthermore they are likely to have been forced to sign a non disclosure agreement, affecting the ability of patients to check out the competency of their surgeon before surgery.

Secret nondisclosure agreements also affect patient safety by allowing bad doctors and other dangerous medical providers to continue to harm patients because their incompetency is hidden from their present and future patients and employers.

When FtM surgery goes wrong - Scott trying to raise awareness.
ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 27/08/2019 09:45

though heaven knows what their malpractice insurance fees are.

You assume the have malpractice insurance. From Scott's blog

Do you know that surgeons don't have to carry medical malpractice insurance?

I'm also disturbed that Scott mentions Marci Bowers as an example of a good surgeon. Bowers was one of the surgeons involved in Jazz Jennings' 'transition'. If Bowers is held up as an example of 'good practice' I despair of just how bad a surgeon has to be before they are considered beyond the pale by trans ideologists. Bowers is an utter cowboy.

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