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Uni of Bristol disciplinary hearing - professor speaks out

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severnboring · 20/08/2019 19:53

Looks like Bristol University have made a massive mess of this. Shocking to read this statement (pasted and linked below)from professor there but at least she is speaking out. Student A is Dominican feminist Raquel Rosario Sanchez and student B is Nic Shall, whom you may know from the footage of Shall protesting the Bristol JamJar meeting by screaming: 'I'm not she, you fucking cunt! My pronouns are they!'

dr-emma-williamson.tumblr.com/post/187146565848/statement

twitter.com/emmaandeldin/status/1163879839239213063

In February 2018, The Centre for Gender and Violence Research, at the University of Bristol, was mentioned in an anonymous petition calling for the (cancellation) no-platforming of a meeting being organised by Woman’s Place UK [i]. That petition suggested that attaching the Centre’s name to the event was endorsing “hate speech” and called into question the integrity of the Centre.

In fact, the Centre was not involved in this event and had no part in organising or hosting it. However, that petition also named one of the Centre’s PhD students who had been asked to Chair the event - and agreed to do so.

Following the event, which was targeted by activists, the University PVC issued a statement clarifying the University’s position on Free Speech[ii]. This statement makes clear that behaviours which have the effect of silencing the free speech of others are unacceptable. A number of events have taken place since then which raise concerns about how the University of Bristol, and other educational establishments, intends to safeguard university members’ rights to free speech and protection from abuse on this basis.

Further information was added to the University PVC’s statement in May 2018, following a complaint by the student named in the original petition and accused of “hate speech” for chairing the event (Student A), against other students in the University. That statement read:

A University spokesperson said: ‘Concerns have been raised with us about the actions of one of our students in relation to their protesting of a talk by A Woman’s Place. This talk was not hosted by the University. A University of Bristol student chaired the event.

‘We strongly defend the right of students to protest. In this instance a complaint has been made that the form of these actions may have infringed on the freedom of speech of others in our community. The University has a duty to investigate such complaints, and secure free speech in the institution within the law. We have therefore initiated Student Disciplinary Regulations proceedings relating to the form of this student’s protest.

Following the complaint being made, posts appeared on social media which were partial and therefore misleading. These accused the University of deliberately targeting a trans student for writing a letter and made no mention of the intimidatory behaviour and content of social media posts which had constituted the essence of the original complaint.

As the date for the disciplinary hearing approached on June 15th, 2018, more social media posts appeared calling for demonstrations in support of the student against whom the complaint had been made. Despite the University changing the time and date of the hearing several times to keep the complainant, staff members and Disciplinary Committee safe, each time, the new details appeared on-line (by and through student B) necessitating additional security, increased fears regarding the personal safety of participants, and creating delays in convening the meeting.

Nearly 12 months on from the initial complaint, in January 2019, the University of Bristol sought a review and requested impact statement from all parties involved. As student A’s Supervisor (with a duty to support the student during the disciplinary process), I was not asked for a contribution or informed of this review. When the student informed me the review was taking place, I contacted the University and submitted an impact statement. Once again, whilst those supporting student A made representations in ways intended not to interfere with the due process of the complaints procedure, more social media posts appeared on line:

To add insult to injury, the University continue to drag out this most bogus of disciplinary proceedings. The case was adjourned on 15 June 2018 and, 11 months on, will face the disciplinary board again. This comes after the University suggested dropping the case, only to deem ’s considerable mental health difficulties insufficient cause to stop proceedings, showing disregard for students’ mental health and wellbeing on top of transphobia[iii].

What this post does not mention is that many of the significant delays were caused by security concerns linked to the deliberate leaking of information (again, by and through student B) about when and where the hearing was being held. It also fails to consider any mental health impacts on the student making the complaint who at the initial hearing was asked questions by the University lawyer, and cross examined by student B’s Barrister, in the presence of the student against whom the complaint of bullying and aggressive behaviour had been made. To date only student A (the complainant) has been asked to answer questions in front of the disciplinary committee. The post also fails to mention the behavioural aspects of the initial complaint or consider the negative impact that this behaviour has had on other individuals, or the wider climate of academic debate.

The post does however mention that, following the review, the University made a decision to continue with the proceedings. We can only assume that in balancing the submissions made, someone thought that it was appropriate for the process to continue. I do not know who made that decision and on what grounds.

It therefore came as a surprise to hear in June 2019 (18 months after the initial complaint for bullying behaviour by a student, against another student) that the University was ‘terminating’ the complaint. No reasons have been given and there is no transparency as to who made that decision, on what basis, and how it fits with the University’s own student complaint policies and procedures.

Throughout this case those of us who were involved in some way (which includes many members of academic and support staff from supervisors to wellbeing advisors to the media team who have had to respond to emails from those reacting to misleading social media posts) have remained silent in order to allow the University to follow and enact its own policies and procedures. We have throughout advised student A to do the same and supported her in trying to continue with her studies whilst this has been on-going.

As student A’s supervisor, and at the time of the initial complaint Student B’s supervisor also, I do not feel that I can be silent any longer. As I said in my submission to the review in January 2019, irrespective of the outcome of the complaints procedure it is crucial that it reached a decision. As members of staff we cannot in good faith advise students to have confidence in the University’s own complaints procedures if they do not deal with complaints in a timely, safe, transparent and fair way.

I do not know what I can honestly say to a student in future who is making a complaint about being bullied and who is fearful of their safety. Particularly in an era where student welfare is meant to be paramount, the University needs to ensure that supporting students goes beyond ‘signposting’ advice, to providing a justice process where complaints can be dealt with fairly – and acted upon. Those who have written similar posts (during the process), calling for the same, have only ever focused on the issue of trans student welfare[iv] and not considered the duty of care owed to all students, who may themselves be vulnerable, who come forward to make complaints about the behaviour and actions of others against them.

Since the University terminated the case, further social media posts have appeared[v]. Again, these are partial and misleading. The student who made the complaint has been targeted on several occasions over the past 18 months since the original complaint was made. Organisations she is involved with have been threatened with boycott vi, and she has been threatened with legal action, faced masked demonstrators at events she is involved invii viii, both on and off the University campus, and had to pass masked protestors to attend disciplinary proceedings. This targeting has escalated since she originally filed her complaint. The impact on this student (one of our international students) has been thoroughly ignored in all the social media coverage to date, and - by not seeing the complaints process through - in my opinion, by the University too.

The irony of course is that the Centre for Gender and Violence Research has been at the forefront of championing the voices of abused women and other discriminated against groups for nearly 30 years, including the trans community. We are recognised as a centre of excellence, researching for instance the minutiae of bullying behaviours which seek to limit the agency and personhood of discriminated against groups. Moreover, during the past 20 months, whilst this complaint was ongoing, we were engaged in a large scale study looking at aspects of justice for victims and survivors of gender based violence and inequalities. Even within the contexts of our research, student A cannot be said to have been treated in a ‘just’ manner. The bullying and intimidation she has experienced, and which formed part of the initial complaint, appear to have been ignored. She feels that the University of Bristol has treated her in an inhumane, reckless and cruel manner and ignored threats to her safety.

I would like to make a concluding statement and recommendations about how such processes could be better dealt with in future, but this process is not yet at its conclusion. Student A is still waiting for the information she needs to make any decisions about what options are now available to her.

· Who made the decision to terminate the complaint?

· On what basis was that decision made?

· Did that decision take into account the impact on confidence in the complaints procedure more generally?

· Why did the University review the case early in 2019 and decide to continue, only to terminate it in June 2019?

· Why was Student A repeatedly advised that she did not need to seek independent legal representation?

· Why was student A allowed to be cross-examined by student B’s barrister during the first hearing in 2018, yet student B was asked no questions?

· Why are those members of the University who advised student A, now no longer willing to meet and discuss the case with her?

· Why has the University yet to make any statements disputing the claims which have been freely circulated on social media whilst the complaint was on-going (for over 18 months)?

· What has the University done to ensure this students safety and protection from additional bullying during the complaints procedure?

It is in light of these on-going failures that I feel no option but to make a public statement on this matter.

Dr Emma Williamson

Associate Professor/Reader in Gender Based Violence,

Head of the Centre for Gender and Violence Research,

University of Bristol.

[i]openletterbristol.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/cancel-the-a-womans-place-event-in-bristol.pdf?fbclid=IwAR22MJmrs280ybfuQCKFtgMmqjDKF0wcvabbhfDCtvt5Cis7V8qjGE85W6k

[ii]www.bristol.ac.uk/news/2018/february/freedom-of-speech.html

[iii]www.facebook.com/events/1834194523353940/

[iv]epigram.org.uk/2019/05/13/the-university-could-be-at-risk-of-complicity-in-anti-transgender-bullying-campaign/

[v]twitter.com/mimmymum/status/1163493694030397442/photo/2

Aug 20th, 2019

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ChattyLion · 22/08/2019 17:48

Great post Goosefoot

Caucho · 23/08/2019 03:55

It's a complete parody. Unfortunately because of this type of shit I seem to be metamorphosing into a right winger despite previously considered myself as a liberal type of guy. Suppose labels are in the eye of those dishing them out though so it’s pretty easy to be a Nazi these days. In fact Nazis are fast becoming more common than non Nazis.

The only solace I take is that most woke folk eventually reap what they sow when inevitably any random select group turns against them because they won’t go far enough. Like that horrible transphobic Guardian news organisation.

When people like Trevor Philips or Germaine Greer previously lauded for their left wing stances start being considered to the right of Ghenghis Kahn you realise things are seriously fucked up.

Caucho · 23/08/2019 04:04

Bristol SU made an initial assessment of the speaker and recommended that security would be needed to ensure this event could run safely and smoothly.

"The Freedom of Speech Society was informed of this one week prior to the event with the recommendation that the event is rearranged in order to allow security measures to be put in place and the event to go ahead."

This kind of says it all about an event purporting to be advocates of free speech but can’t entirely blame them as will be acting due to some intelligence. At least the Beeb reported this

SockMachine · 23/08/2019 04:38

This is shocking.

And it isn’t a case of cheerleading for the ‘side’ you support, it would be shocking if the political viewpoints of the protagonists were reversed.

FPFW have a right to discuss issues and lobby for their interests , Trans people have the same right.

Above all else a Uni surely has no intellectual credibility if it cannot, does not and will not defend free speech, has no credibility as an institution if it cannot act efficiently to deliver its set procedures, and it fails as an educator if students welfare is out at risk.

Total shame.

My Dc has Bristol as current favoured choice for upcoming application: this will be raised as part of the discussion!

Needmoresleep · 23/08/2019 08:30

but can’t entirely blame them as will be acting due to some intelligence

Presumably the 'intelligence' was along the lines that previous events where TWANW TWAM was stated were disrupted. And that given the University seems not to have investigated or sanctioned previous alleged disrupters, this was likely to happen again.

If the University does not protect and defend the right to free speech, it wont happen and bully boy tactics will continue.

Oldstyle · 24/08/2019 18:54

Times article up on FB saying that Raquel risks losing her visa over this. Can someon with a share token please find it / share it? This is absolutely appalling.

Oldstyle · 24/08/2019 19:02

Found it! (Thanks Women's Voices Matter).
A Bristol University postgraduate student who made a complaint of bullying against a transgender student has faced a barrage of abuse and even “masked protesters” when she attended disciplinary hearings.
Raquel Rosario-Sanchez, 29, a PhD student from the Dominican Republic, complained to the university about being bullied by a trans student 18 months ago.

The harassment started two months after she arrived to begin her PhD at the university’s Centre for Gender and Violence Research, when she agreed to chair a meeting for the Woman’s Place UK group on campus, she said.
It escalated after formal disciplinary proceedings were launched by the university against the transgender student following Rosario-Sanchez’s complaint. Activists organised a series of protests, urging followers to give the PhD student “hell”.

Rosario-Sanchez said she had been threatened with violence and told she would have eggs and milkshakes thrown at her. She has also been called “heinous scum”. “I no longer feel safe on campus. Most people who are subject to abuse by trans activists stay silent because if you file a complaint you undergo the campaign of threats I have experienced,” she said.

The university took more than a year to investigate. No disciplinary action was taken.

Rosario-Sanchez’s PhD supervisor, Dr Emma Williamson, the head of the university’s Centre for Gender and Violence Research, said: “As members of staff, we cannot advise students to have confidence in the university’s complaints procedures if they do not deal with complaints in a timely, safe, transparent and fair way. I do not know what I can say to a student in future who is making a complaint about being bullied and who is fearful of their safety.”

Rosario-Sanchez says she has fallen behind in her PhD and missed her progress review because she was so stressed, which means she has missed the academic requirements to receive funding from the Dominican Republic. Without a scholarship she expects to either lose her visa or be forced to take out a large loan to pay for her studies. She said: “It took tremendous effort from all my family to help me get here. I remember being with my mum, so full of hope about coming to the UK to study. Someone stole my future and the university let them.”

The University of Bristol said: “We believe that every effort has been made to support Ms Rosario-Sanchez. Matters relating to individual disciplinary cases are confidential, therefore we are unable to make further comment.”

I am so bloody angry.

GCAcademic · 24/08/2019 19:03

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GCAcademic · 24/08/2019 19:04

Oops, cross posted. I’ll ask MNHQ to delete.

Aderyn19 · 24/08/2019 19:24

I think that PhD student needs a lawyer. No way should she accept losing her funding. In her shoes I'd be taking legal action against Bristol University.
I'm glad I don't have any children there!

morningtoncrescent62 · 24/08/2019 19:24

This is a disgrace. I bet that managers at Bristol University are paid very large sums of money - how appalling that they don't seem to have the courage, with the might of that large institution behind them, to stand up to bullies. I looked up their policy, available here - it says:

"The University of Bristol believes that freedom of expression and academic freedom are at the heart of its mission and must be fully reflected in both its policies and practices"

Well they seem to have failed in this instance, and the consequence is a young woman possibly having to go home before completing her degree. Contact details here should anyone want to write to Vice-Chancellor Professor Hugh Brady.

LizzieSiddal · 24/08/2019 20:28

The University of Bristol said: “We believe that every effort has been made to support Ms Rosario-Sanchez.

How can they say that! Mind you with their record on pastoral care is atrocious and this incident adds to that fact.

severnboring · 16/11/2019 15:58

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MockersthefeMANist · 16/11/2019 16:02

NDAs legitimately exist only to protect commercial confidentiality. Any matter not related to that should be null and void in law, so the signatoree can disclose away. (and keep all the dosh.)

boatyardblues · 16/11/2019 16:06

Stable door, horse, bolted. Seriously, the damage is already done. We all know now that Bristol Uni will not protect its female students from bullying and sustained harassment. What's the point of trying to hush it up now.

Well said, Raquel!

QuantumEntanglement · 16/11/2019 16:34

Someone at Bristol Uni needs telling that’s not quite how NDAs work. Even assuming Raquel were willing to go along with it, which she isn’t, it’s kinda too late to try and hush shit up when all the facts are already in the public domain. Also, I’m not seeing where there’s anything for her to gain in signing an NDA anyway. They’re bloody tripping.

“Thanks but no thanks @BristolUni” is the only logical response.

Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 26/03/2021 16:19

There are a lot of worthy causes on the go at the moment, but this one tugs at my heart strings. A young woman from South America comes to the UK to work towards ending violence against women and girls, and to do a PhD on online communities for men who pay for sex, starting in January 2018.

She is invited to speak at a Women's Place UK meeting on 8 February 2018 and is immediately branded a TERF and a SWERF, she then becomes a target for violent bullies who follow her around threatening her while complaining that her presence makes them feel unsafe. The way Bristol University react to what follows is horrendous, and anyone thinking of sending a daughter to study there should be following the situation very carefully.

UPDATE
The legal case against the University of Bristol is moving forward. Our Case Management Conference is scheduled for 15 April 2021. This is a procedural hearing to decide the trial dates, specify disclosure and confirm the witnesses who will testify for each party. The University says they will have 5 witnesses testifying against me, while I will have 1 other person to stand with me defending my case. The University says they anticipate the trial will take 7 days, while we argue it might take 5 days. A CMC is where these matters are determined. The court has stated they want my case to be decided this year of 2021.

I dragged my gardening equipment out of the shed, because I feel so dreadful about the way this young woman has been treated. For all their claims of supporting PoC and making sure visiting students from developing countries were taken care of, the powers that be at Bristol decided to back the spoilt, home-grown crybullies, having seemingly judged who was able to wield the most power, then decided that backing the local bullies would require the least time, effort and risk

I don't want them to get away with it, and hope you'll feel the same.

highame · 26/03/2021 17:05

Rashmi Samant, who is the first child in her family to go to university, made history last month when a landslide victory saw her become the first Indian woman to head up the Oxford Student Union (OSU). But her victory was short-lived. Within days she was forced to resign after old Instagram posts were dug up. The offending posts – which included a picture at the Berlin Holocaust Memorial, a photo of her during a visit to Malaysia along with the words, ‘Ching Chang’, and a post that separated ‘women’ and ‘transwomen’ – saw her condemned for ‘xenophobia’, ‘transphobia’, ‘anti-Semitism’, and ‘Islamophobia’. The posts were mostly years old, but that didn't matter to her detractors. These included Oxford SU's LGBTQ campaign, and the SU campaign for racial awareness & equality I do not agree with some of the things the young woman said, but I abhor the no forgiveness and the hounding, which they never see as harassment
Hardeep Singh Article with link so you can read it in full
www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-is-india-s-parliament-discussing-an-oxford-free-speech-row-

I wonder if the Government will order an inquiry soon into what's going on. They are out of control and somewhat like Universities in some places in the US and what has happened there is that employers are reluctant to hire and intelligent students go elsewhere

So sorry for Rosa and will do a little more digging. At lest things are moving and hopefully the court will take a dim view if Bristol continue to mess about

highame · 26/03/2021 17:08

Sorry, forgot to say that this is being discussed in the Indian Parliament and I bet the Foreign office is running around like a frenzied fox

YouSetTheTone · 27/03/2021 07:56

@Stealhsquirrelnutkin

There are a lot of worthy causes on the go at the moment, but this one tugs at my heart strings. A young woman from South America comes to the UK to work towards ending violence against women and girls, and to do a PhD on online communities for men who pay for sex, starting in January 2018.

She is invited to speak at a Women's Place UK meeting on 8 February 2018 and is immediately branded a TERF and a SWERF, she then becomes a target for violent bullies who follow her around threatening her while complaining that her presence makes them feel unsafe. The way Bristol University react to what follows is horrendous, and anyone thinking of sending a daughter to study there should be following the situation very carefully.

UPDATE
The legal case against the University of Bristol is moving forward. Our Case Management Conference is scheduled for 15 April 2021. This is a procedural hearing to decide the trial dates, specify disclosure and confirm the witnesses who will testify for each party. The University says they will have 5 witnesses testifying against me, while I will have 1 other person to stand with me defending my case. The University says they anticipate the trial will take 7 days, while we argue it might take 5 days. A CMC is where these matters are determined. The court has stated they want my case to be decided this year of 2021.

I dragged my gardening equipment out of the shed, because I feel so dreadful about the way this young woman has been treated. For all their claims of supporting PoC and making sure visiting students from developing countries were taken care of, the powers that be at Bristol decided to back the spoilt, home-grown crybullies, having seemingly judged who was able to wield the most power, then decided that backing the local bullies would require the least time, effort and risk

I don't want them to get away with it, and hope you'll feel the same.

I am outraged on her behalf. I assume I just google her name and crowdfunding to find how to dig? Shame on you Bristol University. I am fucking sick of how women advocating rights for women, and talking about the two biological sexes is ‘hate speech’.

No one should have been allowed to make this woman feel unsafe, the fact that her bullying and targeting was condoned and endorsed by the University is surely a massive failure of safeguarding? I don’t feel understand. What if this woman had been injured by the bullies? Why is her safety and mental health held in lower esteem than those who claim her actions ‘make them feel unsafe’?

MaMaLa321 · 27/03/2021 07:58

I might be wrong here, and a lot might be going on behind the scenes, but I am disappointed that her MP isn't supporting her.

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