M&S/furries/school kids

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These ads creep me out on their own (a hedgehog/seal in school uniform just standing there staring? how does that sell school uniform?) but the resemblance to the “furry” movement is just too much. I’m possibly just over exposed to the grimness of the whole furry underworld and see anything depicting kids as furry animals as sinister.

Am I alone or is this weird?

www.facebook.com/MarksandSpencer/posts/10156986494533612/

This one is a hedgehog. There is one with a seal. Not sure if there are others.

Here we go again, it's a article online. How do you know? I know more female friends who are furrys then my Male friends. So dont start with that for the love of god and yes I have friends who are and if you have a problem that's not my issue. There really lovely and caring people.

You can't just place the blame on everyone.

Who here has said it's everyone, even the statists prove its not the whole subculture, but to deny any link with beastiality when almost 20% are happy to admit to it, or claim it's not sexual is ridiculous.

It's fine if you are an adult and are into this, it's really fine.

Not so much if you are putting pictures of cartoon characters in bondage gear in places on the net where kids can see it, which happens a lot.

Theres much worse out there than furries, I can tell you that 100%

Here we go again, it's a article online. How do you know?

It's from a survey from furcenter, a furry site. It's an "insider" survey, from the actual community in question.

Theres much worse out there than furries, I can tell you that 100%

Yes, what's your point?

It definitely doesn't suggest furries to me, but I agree it's creepy - just not in a sexual way. Uncanny valley effect maybe.

It's not that easy to find at all. Where do kids look websites made for that sort of content? You can't just find it on google images. I mean if there kids surely safe search would be turned on anyways. Voiding the results that would even come up for it as null.

That furrys have nothing to do with any of this at all. As I have said already. It's more uncanny than being linked to furrys at all.

That furrys have nothing to do with any of this at all.

I agree.

It's not that easy to find at all. Where do kids look websites made for that sort of content?
DeviantArt is full of the stuff, it show up on image searches.

pre06.deviantart.net/42e5/th/pre/i/2014/216/7/7/baby_sonic_has_wet_himself_walpaper_by_the_tails_fan_club-d7to769.png

And YouTube.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=-El7OpgKXe4

www.ecosia.org/images?q=Bugs+bunny+lola

5th image down.

@CaptainKirksSpookyghist Ok, I will admit I forgot about devintart but what kind of people let there kids lose on that in the first place, just wondering?

Thank you for seeing where I come from with the advertising side of this.

@CaptainKirksSpookyghost I didn't find that one, I did have safe search on. I'm not sure if that's why it didn't show up for me.

what kind of people let there kids lose on that in the first place, just wondering?

The issue is using cartoon characters, obviously known to children, in child like styles depicting sexual stuff.
It can be found in image searches.

Theres much worse out there than furries, I can tell you that 100%

Well that’s ok then.

Sorry for confusing furries and puppies. It hard to tell all this stuff apart.

@PancakeAndKeith, it's okay dont worry. It's more of the puppy stuff which is alot worse but the main sort of art. I know what you mean, there is a difference but it is hard to tell it part at times.

This thread has jumped to the top of my TIO again. Lots of responses! Thanks to everyone who has contributed and helped me work out why I was uncomfortable with the adverts.

This comment from VforVienetta sums up my feelings pretty accurately.

“This is totally unrelated and I think has flashed up on the OP's radar as we've all realised how pervasive the serious stuff has become.”

I understand puppies and furries are two different fetishes but it’s not a massive gap between the two and I’d be amazed if there was no crossover amongst those that engage in either. And from a child’s point of view a puppy is a furry creature just like furries are furry creatures. Both as cuddly and cute as each other. Children wouldn’t differentiate between puppy cartoons and furry cartoons they saw online (even the kids YouTube has been invaded by this stuff)

OP i just saw this campaign on Facebook and wow people really hate it!
Tonnes of comments saying how creepy it is, and a much smaller number saying "Eh?".

https://www.facebook.com/67341283611/posts/10156999662558612?s=666630373&sfns=mo

I’m still pretty unclear about what furries are.

Are they people who like to dress up as strangely muscular furry animals?

I can’t see that it has anything at all to do with gay puppies.

Children wouldn’t differentiate between puppy cartoons and furry cartoons they saw online

If you let your children search for cartoons online with no restrictions or supervision, you deserve all you get frankly. How the fuck are you letting your children find puppy porn online? You are surely not letting a child browse Deviantart unsupervised, forget furries there is plenty of normal porn on there.

Are the fluffy handcuffs on sale in Ann Summers ok, or are they evilly luring unsuspecting children into S&M too? Some things are just not meant for children. It’s your job as a parent to keep them away from porn, not to expect them to know it on sight and avoid it themselves and then complain when they can’t tell the difference.

This is like Momo all over again isn’t it?

no it has nothing to do with ann summers at all, and second no Its not like momo. On the subject of that, there two different things and if anybody did research into "momo" it's an art piece called "mother of birds". There not connected at all.

I'm not having a go at anyone but curious to know how would a kid even know what to do with things from ann summers. I mean to get to things like that you have to have a Id that says your over 18, why would a kid go on there anyways?

If you let your children search for cartoons online with no restrictions or supervision, you deserve all you get frankly. How the fuck are you letting your children find puppy porn online? You are surely not letting a child browse Deviantart unsupervised, forget furries there is plenty of normal porn on there.

Where in earth did I say my children?

If you let your children search for cartoons online with no restrictions or supervision, you deserve all you get frankly. How the fuck are you letting your children find puppy porn online? You are surely not letting a child browse Deviantart unsupervised, forget furries there is plenty of normal porn on there.

And there we have it, children deserve it if they find it / see it / do it.

And there we have it, children deserve it if they find it / see it / do it.

No, you are a shit parent if you put your primary aged child in a position where they can access porn (which is presumably what we are talking about if we are talking about children being groomed by fluffy animal cartoons, no fifteen year old is going to be searching the Internet for that).

You need to supervise what your kids are browsing, and if they find a picture of Sonic the Hedgehog having sex with Mario, that is YOUR fault as a parent, not the Internet’s fault.

The similarity with Momo was the mass panic about young children accessing inappropriate material, with a complete disavowal of any parental responsibility for that having happened.

I'm not having a go at anyone but curious to know how would a kid even know what to do with things from ann summers. I mean to get to things like that you have to have a Id that says your over 18, why would a kid go on there anyways

I could say the exact same thing about puppy fetish sites. But apparently having the word “puppy” in the title makes them irresistibly enticing to young children and impossible to distinguish from cute baby animals, despite looking like this (link is SFW, most images that come up on google aren’t):

www.google.ca/amp/s/www.queerty.com/growing-trend-puppy-play-proof-men-can-dogs-20160523/amp

I don’t know, I look at the stuff that comes up if you do a google image search and it is clearly not stuff aimed at children. But apparently people’s five year olds are finding it on the internet and watching it, and that is puppy fetishists’ fault for existing, or maybe the internet’s fault for existing, and not parents’ fault for not supervising their children’s internet use.

The M&S adverts interest me because of the use of the word "wild", a word that is used by the cults that I research, usually when promoting your inner "wild woman" or "wild self", a self connected to the laws of nature rather than the boring old laws of the land.

However I would not jump to the conclusion that these M&S ads are luring kids into cults any more than the summer clothes rage for kids at a local supermarket (which this year featured mermaids and unicorns) is luring kids into transgenderism and polyamory.

I think it is important to notice how the themes, symbols and terms used by cults and fringe subcultural groups turn up in advertisements and children’s clothing ranges and to wonder why, but not to jump to conclusions as these things are complex.

Undoubtably some PR and advertising creatives are involved with cults. The extent to which they influence the imagery and narratives that appear in advertisements is difficult to determine. It could be that they simply make use of memes, symbols and narratives that are part of the zeitgeist in both advertising and in cult recruitment.

Why, for example, did Gillette Venus, for many years produce adverts inviting women to awaken / discover there "inner goddess" through using their products when this narrative was also used by cults involved in the sexual exploitation of women and children?

Adverts like this one for example

In fact Gillette Venus really ran with the whole "reveal your inner goddess" narrative beloved of abusive cults. For example, this Venus Goddess Ambassador initiative

Fairly recently the official Gillette Venus youtube channel removed all of the "goddess" themed adverts from their youtube channel. Gillette then embarked upon a commercially disastrous campaign about toxic masculinity.

If you want to find the Venus Goddess themed averts you have to find them on the youtube channels unrelated to Gillette. I have a load of them saved and downloaded in case they get them taken down via cease and desist notices.

Back to the furry issue

I do not believe that the M&S adverts are anything to do with furries.

These Orangina adverts are not only blatantly furry focussed but are also very obviously fetish orientated and quite WTF is going on with the creatives who ran with this I can only imagine

The above advert is also helpful in understanding the concept of the “transformational object” and how it works in advertising. In the advert Orangina is a magic substance that not only refreshes and hydrates but that cleans floors, works as a deodorant, clears up bad skin and generally does everything a transformational object is meant to, it clears blockages, gets rid of the bad and strengthens the good. or something