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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Woman with a penis hopes to find lesbian woman with a womb (WWW) 'willing to escape the patriarchy and oppression and open her heart to a person and not just appendages'

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frazzled1 · 02/08/2019 11:40

medium.com/@samrangoon9/i-am-a-trans-woman-and-i-am-not-i-am-transphobic-and-i-am-not-am-i-too-queer-65baba6189bf

Yet same woman with a penis (WWP)....

I know I only want to have sexual relationships with women based upon the truth that I am a woman. I am a lesbian. But, shame, I do not know if I want to have a relationship with a WWP. I feel uncomfortable about this. I want to have a relationship with a WWW.

This person is clearly conflicted but boy do I feel for my lesbian same sex attracted sisters.

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Juells · 02/08/2019 12:41

FormerMediocreMale
the support of other women

I've noticed that the phrase 'other women' is being used a lot just recently - MB used it a week or so ago, my hackles went up when I saw it, but I've come across it several times since. Such a neat way of positioning yourself as one of a group you don't belong to.

Other doctors are really mean to me just because I don't have a degree

Other children won't play with me because I'm 38

Other African Americans are excluding me because I'm Rachel Dolezal

OhtheHillsareAlive · 02/08/2019 12:42

Oh that feels better.

I’m an historian. I know the shit that our feminist foremothers went through. The imprisonments, the force feeding, the sectioning in really appalling asylums. And so on.

And the kinds of things that normal ordinary women face Every.Single.Fucking.Day in patriarchy. Still. In 2019.

These MEN have no fucking idea. They want to be speshul.

They can fuck off to the far side of fuck and the fuck off some more.

MadameButterface · 02/08/2019 12:42

That is just

Well

I have to say, it seems a shame. Here’s a man who knows how to have close platonic friendships with women and is attractive to them as a partner and sounds like he fully rejects the notion of performing masculinity or femininity. All should be good in the hood right? Tall, well dressed, well paid, he sounds like he’s got it all going on. And then he dumps this daftness about being a woman/lesbian on people, wtf? This silly nonsense about having an internal immutable ‘gender identity’ (vs a body with a unique personality living in it) is making people very unhappy. And there’s absolutely no need for it. People are internalising this stuff and then becoming their own worst enemies. I am torn between rolling my eyes and feeling very sorry for them.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 02/08/2019 12:43

Starts out by blaming women for "anger and abuse". Check.
Puts on the "poor little me being bullied" act. Check
Calls themselves female when biologically male. Check.
Calls women "cis". Check.
Others and demeans women to biological parts. Check
Includes male biology as part of female biology. Check.
Redefines feminism to include men. Check.
Confirms mystical female essence. Check.

And I only got a few paragraphs in. Either this is a very inclusive (haha) satire; or someone is so entirely up their own beliefs they can't see reality.

FormerMediocreMale · 02/08/2019 12:44

^^www.grrlalex.co.uk/what-is-transgender/^^

Not sure how to clicky link.

KUGA · 02/08/2019 12:45

Oh good god wtf is wrong with the world.

Barracker · 02/08/2019 12:49

Has to be satire.

Coffeeandchocolate9 · 02/08/2019 12:49

So many things in that piece I want to scream at.

The lack of boy and man role models in this child's life

So, I will support my cisters , cis woman who object to having to qualify their being a woman with the word cis. They say that they are simply women and I agree — as long as they agree with me that I also do not have to qualify my being a woman with the word trans.

I will support women who don't want to be called cis ONLY IF they support me in living the lie that me and my penis, beard and suits are the same as them Hmm

I will continue to let everybody believe that I am a man because I am because it suits my status in society, my earning potential and lifestyle.

I will complain that it is hurtful.

I will not tell anybody in the big wide world that I am a woman. It is therefore their fault if they misgender me, assuming from my Male clothes, physique and beard that I am Male.

I will date and hurt women and myself because I won't make it clear on my profile that I identify as a woman and am looking for a woman who is only attracted to women who is prepared to pretend that my male body is female and that my penis inside her is a woman's penis. I am looking for the ultimate affirmation of the lie I tell myself.

I am not a man wo has a fettish of being a lesbian woman.

At the same time as I demand that I'm accepted fully as a woman who wants to stick her dick into a vagina, I reserve the right to reject a partner who has a "female dick."

My only redeeming quality in all of this is that I feel a bit bad about wanting lesbian women, who I claim to be one of, to accept "women with dicks" while I reject them.

(Have i missed anything?)

SmellbowSpaceBowl · 02/08/2019 12:50

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YippeeKayakOtherBuckets · 02/08/2019 12:51

That is fucking hilarious/horrifying.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 02/08/2019 12:54

Anybody else have an urge to post it somewhere well woke and watch the "brave and stunning" accolades rush in?

donquixotedelamancha · 02/08/2019 12:56

If only I had a £1 for every time someone on here had responded to a fresh piece of lunacy with the words "This has got to be satire". (It usually isn't.)

But that is, I mean it really obviously is funny and is meant to be funny.

The fact that it is also Stonewall's policy position is the bit I still struggle with. It's not that there aren't some Genderist nutters who expose what's in the article, it's just that they don't put it in such clear cut terms.

ErrolTheDragon · 02/08/2019 12:58
  • It’s definitely parody.

But then again, when the likes of Muscato and Yaniv aren't parody, we're in Poe's Law territory.

donquixotedelamancha · 02/08/2019 13:08

'expose' should be espouse in my PP.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 02/08/2019 13:12

Read it to the end

It’s satire. But very, very well observed satire

I suspect there will be wokesters taken in by it too, fretting that they are intolerant of people who are ‘too queer’. So queer that they behave and look exactly like straight men

DogHasEatenTheSqueaker · 02/08/2019 13:15

You don’t seem to hear much about women who transition to become male do you? They seem to quietly make their choice and get on with their life as they’ve chosen to lead it. Much less drama and hoohaaing 🤔

SisterWendyBuckett · 02/08/2019 13:21

Oh this has cheered me right up. Definite parody. It gets every single trope in there and covers the whole script.

Written by Sam Yangon. Anyone good at anagrams?

LassOfFyvie · 02/08/2019 13:24

It’s satire. But very, very well observed satire

Is it? I really couldn't tell.

I clicked on another article on the website about Marxist materialism or something . My eyes glazed over pretty quickly and life is too short to waste time on that sort of stuff but it seemed to be serious.

Jellybabiesarebabies · 02/08/2019 13:30

Transwomen are a subset of men not women. Women don't need to qualify their biological status by using cis. Woman that's all that's required. As a man identifying as a woman he doesn't get to identify into a different sex classification. It's not possible. The best he can do is ask people if they will call him a transwoman. That's it. He's not a woman and thus he doesn't get classified as one.

RolyWatts · 02/08/2019 13:37

Was half way through this article and it disappeared to be replaced by an error message. Weird.

Italiangreyhound · 02/08/2019 13:46

I'm angry but I feel sorry for him too.

Sadly, I don't think it is satire.

LassOfFyvie · 02/08/2019 13:56

Lily Madigan has half a dozen articles on that site so I doubt this one is satire.

Elementalillusions · 02/08/2019 14:00

I am a bit of a metrosexual. I am well paid and dress well. But I just do not suit traditional female clothes. I am tall with a beard (a hipster I am afraid) and a shaved head. I go for Paul Smith suits — they are me
And I pass as a woman. Well, I do. I am a woman and this is what a woman looks like. However, no –one but me seems to realise this! So, I am called sir and mr . This is my plea for tolerance and understanding. These are terms and assumptions which should never be made. Some women are 6 ft tall, bald with a beard. And we are women. I should not need to dress in dresses and wear make up to be a woman. That would be nonsense for me

He is completely right that wearing dresses and makeup doesn’t make anyone more or less of a woman.
And wearing suits, having a shaved head and a beard doesn’t stop you being a woman and it doesn’t mean you are a man...
having a penis and being genetically male makes you a man.

ErrolTheDragon · 02/08/2019 14:01

Written by Sam Yangon. Anyone good at anagrams?

Any mangos?

Gay man's on?

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 02/08/2019 14:12

My Gay Son?

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