This never happens.

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Bloody good job that this never happens eh.

(Sorry if it’s been posted but I couldn’t see it)

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www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-northern-ireland-49179551?__twitter_impression=true

Bloody link business.

Bit more detail from the Belfast Telegraph.

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/high-risk-sexoffender-caught-wandering-northern-ireland-school-corridors-dressed-as-woman-jailed-38363173.html

"Kelly has previous relevant convictions including two sexual assaults, both on a women in 2016 and 2017. In one of these incidents, which took place in Coalisland, Kelly was also wearing female clothing".

"There is also a conviction for indecent exposure to a teenager in 2017. This occurred in a Draperstown ladies boutique, where a teenage girl was working. Kelly bought some clothes which he decided to put on straight away, but “became fully undressed and emerged from a changing room.”

But hey, there's no issue with these fellas using the toilets and changing rooms that reflect their gender identity, right?

And Glasgow Life which runs sports and leisure facilities in Glasgow is clear in its policies that cross-dressers are entitled to use women's toilets and changing rooms.

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/row-erupts-cross-dressing-men-14444999

Anyone who objects to this may be reported by staff to police as committing a hate crime.

Fuck me! The Daily Record is sticking it to Glasgow Life, isn't it? The photos accompanying that article are a shock to anyone used to the pussyfooting that usually goes on.

Is that top photo of the cubicles that will be shared? They're a pervert's dream

But this never happens.
We’ve been told countless times that men just wouldn’t do this.

Is this person male or trans? Just to avoid deletions for misgendering, of course.

Is this person male or trans?

The two are not exclusive

From the article ‘Kelly has previous relevant convictions including two sexual assaults, both on a women in 2016 and 2017.’

So why was he still walking around?
Anyway, whether he is trans or not isn’t really the issue. The issue is that a predatory male wore female clothing to gain access to somewhere. It could easily be argued that he isn’t trans, but who is going to confront him?

The Daily Record is sticking it to Glasgow Life

Yes! As they should.

Those pictures are priceless! Good on the Daily Record.

"staff are urged to "use the Hate Crime Reporting Form for any incidents"."
Is there any scope in women reporting the presence of male bodied people in a female changing room as hate crime? Discrimination?

Couldn't help noticing the name of the gym boss in a linked article
www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/edinburgh-university-gym-boss-accused-14444721

Brain has been accused of sending the message shortly before Christmas to the staff messaging group set-up to arrange logistics.

🤔

My God, the sheer, unadulterated cheek of Glasgow Life.

A spokesman for Glasgow Life said: "Equality is at the very core of everything we do.

"We work to break down any barriers to access across our services and facilities, while ensuring that everyone can take part while feeling safe and secure.

Everyone? Only if you think 'everyone' does not include women and girls.

Really glad to see the Record using pictures that reflect the reality of the situation rather than the usual carefully selected and posed variety.

The offender in the OP is male and a cross-dresser.

Therefore transgender according to Stonewall and Glasgow Life.

Ah yes, the Edinburgh gym boss.

A gym boss at the University of Edinburgh has been accused of sending a message to other staff suggesting a female client should be 'raped'.

Had been "under investigation" for months until the Daily Record and The Sun printed articles.

He was sacked the next day. Apparently threatening female clients with rape takes a long time to investigate, but tabloids reporting on it make the university look bad. So very swift action as soon as the tabloids get involved.

www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/4164064/edinburgh-university-gym-ross-brain-rape-whatsapp/

The offender in the OP is male and a cross-dresser. Therefore transgender according to Stonewall and Glasgow Life.

Is the term transvestite now banned? I remember it changing to cross dresser, for people such as Eddie Izzard While Grayson Perry still calls himself a transvestite I think? Then we had the term transsexual for someone who has surgery to make them into the gender they feel they belong in. All now come under the transgender umbrella. I'm not sure if drag acts do too - do they still have the term drag acts and drag queens or are these now offensive?

I think it is misleading to group what we once called transvestites with transsexuals since they are not the same thing. Till this whole debate got going I thought transsexuals, now transgender, meant someone who'd had surgery and wanted to be treated as a member of the opposite sex to the one they'd been born into - assigned at birth as it's now referred to. I had no idea that most transwomen - I've seen the figure as high as 85% - retain the male genitals they were born with. And many are sexually attracted to women. I always understood the term transvestite to mean heterosexual man who wasn't gay but liked or was sexually aroused by wearing women's clothing. I hadn't heard of the term autogynephilia. Now some call themselves lesbians and it's a hate crime for a gay women to refuse to consider them in her dating pool.

I used to have many gay friends when I went to dance classes in the 1980s during the aerobics boom. Gender bending, as it was then called, was very popular and great fun. I suppose the term gender bending is also offensive now? But it's what we called artists such as Boy George and Annie Lennox who adored a dressing-up box.

Feels to me we've lost something very precious. I think Eddie Izzard now identifies as transgender and says he feels like a woman. So the new policed language means he is a woman if he says he is.

I miss the days when it wasn't like walking on eggshells to even dare to talk about this. How the hell did that happen? How did it become so toxic and so policed and so scary? Hell I remember reviewing a book called Men In Frocks all about camp and drag traditions. I suspect even that term may be verboten now.

I guess I'll soon find out!

Cross dressing is a literal translation of transvestite.

Yeah but are we still allowed to use either term? I thought everything had to be transgender now, or trans.

Well they mean different things.
Transvestite means that you wear women’s clothes while still being male.
Transgender means that you identify as the opposite gender.

That is the whole point of it, Lawlsie.

The trans lobby need to keep including more and more people under the term 'transgender'. The word transsexual (which meant someone who had medical and surgical intervention) gets changed to transgender. Deliberately so that people with absolutely no intention of changing their body can be considered as 'transgender'.

Stonewall trans umbrella. It includes both cross-dressers and transvestites to make it clear. It also includes "masculine women " and "feminine men" so some lesbians and gay men also get lumped under there.

at Glasgow Life encouraging anyone with concerns to speak to a member of staff so that the staff member can fill out a Hate Crime report!

Here's the Scottish Trans Alliance umbrella.

They make it clear that 50% of the 'transgender' community is made up of people who do not identify as the opposite sex.

Every organisation always deliberately include cross-dressers under the umbrella. They are always explicit about it. And they leave out the sex of the people cross-dressing. It is always "cross-dressing people" and not what they actually mean, which is "cross-dressing men".

Until I did more research (and ended up here) I assumed transgender meant someone who had undergone surgery to emulate the other sex (ie another word for transsexual). I think most people still think that. A man who has gone through all that surgery to 'pass' as a woman is a much less terrifying thought to have in your changing rooms than a fully intact male (with or without lipstick and a dress) who can be male or female on a whim. No doubt that it is deliberate so the majority do not know what they are agreeing to/letting happen.

The deliberate conflation of 'cross-dressing' with 'transsexual' is one of the more disturbing aspects.

I'm old enough to have grown up at a time when children were warned about cross dressing men, and if I remember rightly there is very good statistical reason for this. I'd have to double check the exact figures but if I recall rightly something like 60% of sex offenders list cross dressing as their primary paraphilia. Which, of course though I shouldn't have to say it, does not mean that all cross dressing men are sex offenders, but it was generally recognised in my youth that such men were 'dodgy' in a way transsexuals were not.

Since identification can't be requested on the door, and the encouragement is that everyone pick the changing room of their gender preference at the door, any male walking into a female only space with whatever agenda walks in there has identified as trans and invoked trans protection by doing so. Women dealing with men being enabled to behave openly like this with all the negative effects and fear it invokes is not a bug in the ideology, it's a feature. Women are expected to just suck this up.

One of the many difficult facts the whole ideology tries hard to ignore.

And yes, the whole 'we did this for everyone to feel safe and secure' is mind boggling, since it really does mean 'we did this for MEN to feel safe and secure to do whatever the fuck they want'. Women aren't 'everyone' and their safety and security is of no importance to anyone. To the point the speaker said that and didn't even consider how very anti woman it was.

Again: spot the powerful people in this. And spot the people with no power, unseen, unheard, unimportant. Oppressors and oppressed.

Also note the clear policy made for women:

• You can put up and shut up
• You can give up access to the service
• You can be reported for a hate crime if you say a word or imply in any way that you have a problem with being oppressed.

Men:

Please do whatever you like regardless of how it affects anyone else and we've got the hate crimes forms ready to protect you from anyone else trying to have boundaries.