may my mistress catching me in bed with her daughter

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I was just in the kids section in a bookshop and there was a collection of poems 'to live by', (presumably older kids). I was always quite fond of Roger McGough, but this really bothered me... has feminism turned me into a sour faced bore?

So it's true that even the lovely men want to fuck fuck the daughter of the person they're cheating on their wife with?

I'm being ridiculous arnt I? But I don't want either my son or daughter to read this...

I'm fucking Mary Whitehouse...

Tell me to get a grip?

"Or when I'm 104
and banned from the Cavern
may my mistress
catching me in bed with her daughter
and fearing for her son
cut me up into little pieces
and throw away every piece but one "

Get a grip.

Please, please don't read Roald Dahl's Revolting Rhymes. Or, in fact, any literature at all

Women don't generally fancy men young enough to be their children.

Oh fuck. crosses Luke Pasqualino off list of celebrities I can sleep with and DH can't get mad: there's an 18 year age gap

I agree with TinklyLittleLaugh Get a grip!
Roger McGough wrote silly, amusing little poems that weren't intended to be anything else. Here's a verse from another one of his that will set off somebody somewhere:
" When the busstopped suddenly to avoid
damaging a mother and child in the road, the
younglady in the greenhat sitting opposite
was thrown across me,
and not being one to miss an opportunity
I started to makelove
with all my body.
At first, she resisted saying that it
was tooearly in the morning and too soon
after breakfast and that anyway she found
me repulsive. But when I explained that
this being a nuclearage,the world was going
to end at lunchtime, she tookoff her
greenhat, put her bus ticket into her pocket
and joined in the exercise."

Read the whole thing here: At Lunchtime - A Story of Love

Women dont generally fancy men young enough to be their children

I think it's all relative. I doubt a 20 year age gap feels that big when you are 100.

err, Im pretty sure that MANY MANY women find young men to be very attractive physically, but its far more common for men to value naivete and childish helplessness as feminine and girly, than it is for women to value immaturity in men. Men could talk to a teenage girl and find it all very sweet and charming and have fetishised girlhood. The same hasnt happened with with women and boys

I agree that it isn't fetishised like girlhood might be, but jokes about a woman having a toyboy aren't that unusual.

No they're not that unusual. But I don't see many schoolboys in uniform being catcalled by fifty year old women.

Yes, men and women seem to have different tastes in terms of age. I have generally never found younger men very attractive.

But I think it looks a little different when you are 104 and you are talking about shagging a 70 year old. There aren't as many old men, for one thing, among the senior set there can be quite a lot of competition for the ones still alive.

I'm not sure what your point is...

Why do we think the age gap is only 20 years and he's fantasising about a geriatric? As you've said yourselves the skys the limit and it's all just hyperbole, so why would he be having a sex with a pensioner?! Surely he means some hot young thing

The point is that, as the age of the mistress and daughter (and son) is not stated, the reader is left to imagine this for themselves. A common device in poetry.

I imagine the mistress as a woman of similar age to the poet and her daughter/son as octogenarians. I dont have to be morally outraged by what you imagine.

This rather like decrying Jenny Joseph for wanting to steal stuff and spit when she is old. I think they are both deliberately using hyperbole, not writing literally.

This. It's a bizarre and perverse reading of the poem to imagine the mistress's daughter as a child. If you imagine that, it's more a reflection on you as a reader than McGough.

Roger, if you’ve happened to read this thread, I got a volume of your poetry out of the library today.
Jeez Louise.

I think it's bizzare some you think the mistress is in her dotage and he's in bed with her middle aged daughter...

I reckon his wife is the pensioner, his mistress possibly middle aged, nobody has said the daughter is a child, of course not... but maybe she's 17... I'm thinking early 20s though... isn't that the point of sensationalist hyperbole? It doesn't work if we don't go to those extremes...

Roger if you're reading this, I like you! But I do think the daughter is rather younger than people here seem to imagine.

We will never know

It's like you don't know that old men fantasise about young women...

Or you think the ones that do cannot be decent men... therefore if they seem decent we give them the benefit of the doubt and presume they don't.

Can you be a decent person if you're an old man who privately fantasises about young women (not children..)