Misandry is a real word

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This debate has always interested me. I read a very convincing article about ten years ago, written by a man, explaining why misandry isn't a real word. He listed the etymology and history of the word and so on. He was also an excellent writer and I admire good writing. I can't find the article. I will look again for it.

In searching for it, I came across a men's rights activism forum where they're discussing a thread by the title of "Misandry is a Real Word"

news.mensactivism.org/articles/02/01/02/1631228.shtml

Personally I'm with the writer of the article, but the men's rights activism forum make a convincing argument

He's making me laugh just by the first line
"Misandry: the dictionary of fools"

Oh right, but words pop into existence all the time, with an etymology that may date back only a year or two. They'll still make it into the dictionary.

The problem with "misandry"" is it gives all the misogynists a chance to ooh and aah and claim women do it too, when that simply isn't true.

I don't think that there are any women who exist who want to exploit or destroy men the way a great number of men clearly want to exploit or destroy women.

So a misandrist basically means a woman who is a big meanie online

8 Adonis Mirror
😂 His article is the gift that keeps on giving

One antifeminist grievance is that “misandry” itself is under- lined in red on their word-processors as a misspelling: this they view as a brutal assault upon their psyche, quantitative proof that men’s lives are worth less in our society than women’s.

lLassOfFyvie

You seem very invested in who the misandrists are on the feminism board. Do you report them to MNHQ?

You started a thread about misandry. I replied.

I always report posters who use the "you're a man" attack on another poster when they can't think of anything better to say. MN always delete such posts.

If you are angling to find out whether I reported any of your posts, I have not (unless you used "you're a man" line, in which case - yes I will)

I did actually report a post criticising you. I thought it was unfair, a personal attack and an attempt to make you shut up.

MN didn't agree as the post stands. I obviously can't tell you which post as that identifies who said it.

Thank you for reporting the post criticizing me.
When Dervel disagreed with me on my thread I did say "well you would disagree because you're a man" . Bear in mind Dervel told me he wasn't a feminist (not that I think men can be, but they can perhaps at least show willing if they're coming on here dishing out opinions)

I have to say if I spent time reporting people for their anti feminism, or even misogyny, which I regard as blatant trolling when this place is for feminists, I wouldn't have time for anything else

I've never ever reported anyone. I think people should just be allowed to say whatever they like

I'm not a feminist either. I think the word is almost meaningless. I think calling someone anti- feminist is meaningless too.

I see so many posts on FWR here from radical feminists saying liberal feminists are not feminists and so many posts on Twitter saying the opposite. I've seen it said that anyone who opposes abortion can't be a feminist and I've seen pro- lifers say they are the genuine feminists.

You called me anti- feminist. I don't care. You have called other posters anti-feminist and they have said the same about you.

I often agree with Dervel. I prefer hitching my wagon to ideas and views I agree with, not an ideology.

Actually god no, give me a man who says he isn't a feminist over a feminist man any day. I just cannot deal with feminist men.

I agree with you that the word feminist is meaningless. I did try to get people to thrash out a definition but it resulted in people saying I wasn't a feminist. Given that I'm your local raging misandrist, and misandry is synonymous with feminism- (or it would be if words had meaning) I found that strange.

I mean fuck it if the word woman has no meaning, how can the word feminism possibly have a meaning.

You seem pretty sure misandrist means something though.

So woman- no meaning. Feminism- no meaning. Misandry- has meaning

Misogyny has a meaning.

Misandry has a meaning.

There will be differences of opinion as to what actions or words constitute either.

Women who call themselves feminists are capable of being both misogynistic and misandrist.

I didn't say misandry is synonymous with feminism.

Misandry = woman being a big meanie online

No I said Misandry is synonymous with feminism. It's man-hating, innit

You can add hairy for extra flair. Hairy man hater

So a misandrist basically means a woman who is a big meanie online

Erm, no.

What's your definition of man-hater? RosesAndRaindrops

Hairy lesbian?

That's what my brother called me once when I espoused some feminist viewpoint. It came totally out of the blue. I was like erm why is he talking about sexuality, how random.

I presume he was trying to shame me and to him being a lesbian was so shameful that being called, or should I say, being accused of it would snap me out of my feminism

My BIL loves to talk about misandry. His definition of misandry does seems to be synonymous with feminism, or at least feminist class analysis. When I said that most violent crime is committed by men, and that women still do the majority of household labour, he said I was a misandrist. He also thinks that false rape claims are really common, that there's a genuine risk this has lead to many innocent man being falsely convicted, that women should have to sign "consent contracts" before sex to prevent this, and that there are loads of fathers out there being denied access to their children because family court unfairly favours women. It seems to be:

Women pointing out patterns of male behaviour = misandry

Women getting rape threats online for pointing out said patterns =/= misogyny, this is just people being mean to people and not at all gendered because women are also mean to men (or something)

In conclusion, my BIL is an MRA misogynist, my SIL should GTFO, and misandry - although technically a real word - is about as tone deaf as "straight pride", "reverse racism", and "international men's day".

But then both him and SIL are the poster children for "TWAW!", "Feminism is about EQUALITY therefore stop what you're doing and start campaigning for men's issues", and "If we want men to get on board with feminism we need to make it attractive to them". They're liberal feminism personified. Think SIL might die on the spot if I said men can't be feminists.

Haha thanks for your contribution ByGrabtharsHammarWhatASaving . Obviously I agree with all you say.

Yes for sure misandry is synonymous with feminism.

Examples of misandry ? A deleted thread saying fathers simply masturbate into a vagina- that gives them no right to have any involvement with the resulting children. Not the first time I've seen that line. It's rare and extreme but it occasionally gets said.

Quite a lot of OP's posts in the birth thread were in my view misandrist.

The blogger the OP linked to and admired in the ante- natalist thread. Her blogs were full of it.

I don't think the fact that women stating misandrist views are unlikely to have power means misandry at an individual level is not real.

God don't talk to me about the rape threats. I had a blog and the rape threats were endless, literally incessant. Because they were coupled with doxx threats this was very frightening to me and I only managed to write for as long as I did because I was living in east Asia and I knew the American, Australian and British men who were baying for my blood couldn't get hold of my details and doxx me.
The blog is closed now that I am back in the UK

So online meanies basically LassOfFyvie

Roughly every 16 hours in the USA a woman is shot and killed by her current or former male partner.

An example of misogyny