Want are your views on the concept of 'slut shaming?'

[AnotherAdultHumanFemale]

I feel like slut shaming is another one of those 'liberal feminist' things used to shut down discussion, similar to how they call anyone who is anti porn and anti prostitution a SWERF or a prude etc.

On the one hand, I don't go around shaming women for dressing provocatively and think everyone should, within reason, be allowed to dress in a way that makes them feel happy and comfortable. But on the other hand, I don't think it helps women as a whole when some women base their entire careers on 'being sexy' or when professional sports women (and other professional women) start posing for pornographic type photos.

For example, there is this talented female golfer who, instead of focusing on becoming a brilliant golfer and winning tournaments, starting posting sexy photos online. As a result she started gaining tonnes of (male) followers whereas her peers, who are much higher ranked than her and who win tournaments, are virtually unknown because they just wear normal clothes and are not seeking a specifically male fanbase. The other professional women golfers were not happy with the way she conducts herself because she gets promotion in sports magazines and sponsorships that they don't, even though they are much higher ranked than her and play the sport seriously. By promoting her over the other women golfers it's as if the magazines are saying 'we're not bothered about women actually being good at golf, but we are definitely interested if they want to pose for pornographic photos.'

She accused these women of 'slut shaming' and of course her millions of male fans agreed. I'd much rather see her become a great golfer and leave the sexy posing in the past, because I find it kind of cringey and depressing. To me it just reinforces the stereotype that women are best off focusing on being pretty and sexy rather than trying to actually achieve anything of note.

God Drake. I remember him as a skinny kid on Canadian tv, I can't take him seriously at all.

But he wears a lot more clothes than Beyonce, that's for sure.

"If you want things to change, go after the men"

And the women who co-operate. I'm so bored with this idea that women have no agency, are never to blame for anything.

Women don't have power. Agency is a weak lib fem concept. Men have power in our society and they mould it the way they want it. Including the sexualisation and sale of women's bodies to one another. Change comes from resisting and attacking those with power.

And it's deeply insulting to women who have a career without behaving like this.

It's an insult to women to portray us like this, including the women who are being used to do it.

Quite a few of these super-sexualised female performers are ex-Disney, inlcuding Miley Cyrus. They are totally controlled by the industries they work in.

Remember Britney fighting to get free of her dad and her husband? She wasn't fit to handle her fortune, but apparently getting up on stage was no problem.

Men see women as commodities and boy do they make a lot of money from some of them.

Including the sexualisation and sale of women's bodies to one another. Change comes from resisting and attacking those with power

Sorry but you only have to be on Instagram to see most young women use their looks for attention. No one is paying for them to do so, making money off it etc.

It’s an easy, instant way to get praise/attention. I’m not knocking anyone. But let’s not pretend women don’t also objectify themselves. It’s not all the big bad men. Most people want attention/praise and it’s an easy way to get it.